it's like. okay. on some level this shouldn't require so much contemplation. people should be able to directly create value for each other. directly grow food. directly build each other shelter. american civ structured to make many of these moves weirdly difficult if not illegal
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i think a lot about this fantasy of living in a small village and we can talk about the appeal of community etc. but currently i'm most drawn to the appeal of being able to directly do things that are directly valuable to the other villagers
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imagine living in like a small village where you help your neighbors out by fixing their fences or roofs or something occasionally
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really fucked up how insanely difficult it is to just build shelter. friend of mine who grew up in middle-of-nowhere newfoundland used to talk about how his uncle or whatever could just go out into the woods and chop down a tree and build a lil cabin. this is afaik illegal here?
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on the other hand "let's just make a commune where we farm together" apparently fails a lot because of interpersonal nonsense
okay, hence the next step, let's make a commune where we focus on interpersonal nonsense specifically
this apparently also fails a lot???
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really feeling my ignorance here. there's probably decades of historical attempts at this sort of thing i could be looking at and i just don't know about any of it
what keywords do i need here? intentional community? commune?
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hmm "the commune network in San Francisco during the late 60s and early 70s" yes seems relevant 🤔
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We tried. It was a disaster. youtu.be/WKcSOykgdgM
I can not recommend this movie enough. It explains so much of wheee we are today.
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from : "everything i want to do is illegal"
apparently a lot of wacky stuff going on with farming 🤔
alcoholcanbeagas.com/sites/acbag/fi
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vibing with this
"We are lacking in a kind of wealth our grandparents had, even when they were poor. We are more materially wealthy in the West than we have ever been, yet this wealth is unstable because it is impersonal and transactional."
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"We cannot properly engage in politics if we have a population with no real stake in the future. We must...give people a chance to build beautiful things of their own which they might take pride in and pass onto their children."
New piece out --->
willowliana.com/writing/how-th
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thefec.org may be a useful starting point! A variety of "egalitarian communities" are enumerated, albeit biased towards the sort amenable to federations!
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AFK rn and this is a little bit removed from what you’re asking but my roam page on scenes may be relevant to your interests - you should be able to find it from here, linked at the top
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re: the Islamic Golden Age, Baghdad
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nice. it's relevant in a broad sense although i'm specifically curious about how scenes get *funded* rn. did the rich and cultivated aristocrats of Baghdad get rich from idk trading furs? inheritance? something completely different?
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grouphouses mostly work if everyone has at least half-decent interpersonal skills. having a recurring lease as a Schelling point for shuffling stuff around if it's not working out seems to be crucial. my thoughts go to how to take those dynamics and upgrade them for something new
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Also consider “worker owned cooperatives”
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All this is to say- if we're serious about fixing the food system, I think big employee-owned farm/food operations are the only way to fly.
And WHAT A COINCIDENCE, they could also fix this "we're all being herded into expensive slums and it's destroying our democracy" problem.
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This documentary is right along the lines you’re thinking
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We tried. It was a disaster. youtu.be/WKcSOykgdgM
I can not recommend this movie enough. It explains so much of wheee we are today.
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on a side note, it's kind of sad that we need a special term ("intentional community") to designate communities with a high degree of social cohesion & teamwork
the fact that this is the exception rather than the norm... kinda fucked up when you think about it
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everything bordering this topic is fucked up it's a whole-ass thing!
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