i really don't know what that looks like yet but hopefully thinking out loud like this seeds something to come back to later
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obviously these thoughts are all inspired by the recent stonks shenanigans. like yes let’s talk about making money off silly trades, great
but also, as they say, “if you’ve penetrated the veil of maya so much why aren’t you rich” (he said, to himself)
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maybe the real rebellion against capitalism is to build wealth with the squad while maintaining impeccable ethical standards the whole way
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any info on who came up with this? afaik Marx and Engels didn't speak on ethics
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it might originate online somewhere, i'm not sure
i believe the premise is simply that trying to prove oneself ethical in an inherently unethical system is a game that you can't win
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this feels weird to me. like i am as fond of critiquing capitalism on twitter as the next guy, but also, someone in your network needs money in order for basically anything interesting to happen and might as well try to make that money in a way that feels better than default
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I see "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" as meaning more of "don't worry about ethics downstream too much because the production chain is invisible and there are unethical things all throughout it, so completely ethical things are impossible & ....
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... and participating in capitalist systems isn't an ethical criticism of the people needing it" rather than "hunting whales on coke while burning coal for fun is just as ethical as a poor person buying shirts at walmart bcuz nothing is ethical"
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in other words, try to do good, but "impeccable ethical standards" are impossible under capitalism
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hm okay maybe “impeccable” was a bad way of putting it. most of hat i had in mind when i wrote that was about honesty