2. If you consider yourself to be a ‘postrationalist’, which best describes what that means to you?
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a. You used to be a ‘rationalist’, and you stopped being one / deconverted.
b. ‘Postrationalism’ is an ideology which expands upon / reacts to ‘rationalism’.
c. It’s a statement of social/tribal affiliation.
d. Other (please comment!) / Not a ‘postrationalist’.
- a. former ‘rationalist’5.6%
- b. expansion / reaction25.1%
- c. tribal affiliation22.7%
- d. other / not postrat46.6%
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If you selected option a, I’m interested in hearing more from you.
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this helps me understand the whole rat vs postrat thing a lot better
i’m very interested in hearing more from people who have had ‘deconversion’ experiences with rat ideology
or anyone who had a bad experience with ‘rationalism’ twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/st…
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If you selected option b, I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on how ‘postrationalism’ differs from ‘rationalism’ and what in what specific ways it has improved in ‘rationalism’. What’s the postrat canon / reading list?
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If you selected option c, I’m right there with you. 😎
If you selected option d, wow, I didn’t expect that, can you say more?
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i am a rationalist!
i think that postrats are split into two camps
- prerats who find rationality appalling and want an excuse not to practice it
- people who would like rationality but don't fully understand what it encompasses (thinking intuition isn't considered rational)
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btw, i really would like to hear feedback on this, since i don't want to underestimate postrats and their thinking
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-people who practice rationality but think that rationalists are bad
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oh yes
i'd like to hear from those people
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qc did a couple threads on this recently
tldr the bay area rat community is real bad and abusive, also the median rat is very bad at interaction and other basic human tasks
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to fill in more details of how we got here: at the end of 2018 i had left grad school, been alienated from the rats, was full of feelings but w/o enough ability to work through them, chugging meaningness
a few months later @Malcolm_Ocean convinced me to join twitter twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/st…
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well. "real bad and abusive" is an overstatement. bad things happened and for what were in retrospect predictable reasons. there's also lots of good things happening which is why people stay
do you think there is enough of a balance that one should stay until they actually internalize the community's problems?
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i do understand the psychological problems that result from singularity ideology, though, and i need to reflect on this
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thats fair, yeah
i dont pay much attention to bay area stuff on account of not living there, so i only see the bad stuff coming out every now and then
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