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alright just for fun: AMA but only about math, will attempt to speed-explain stuff with as few symbols and equations as possible and see what happens (esp happy to field questions about stuff that seems basic to you and that you feel like you should've gotten a long time ago!)
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oh whoops i missed the basic-seeming thing -- what the fuck is a function, in terms of intuition? i always have had serious trouble w continuous math (i get Cs when the Σ becomes ∫) and i feel like there's just something i fundamentally can't grasp about continuous functions
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okay idk if this will address your confusion but i think there's a real important ontological point here that people elide. in mathematics functions just kinda "exist in platonic reality"; there's no expectation that a function has values that one should be able to compute
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the main thing people will say about this is "functions are not formulas," as in, you're allowed to specify their values via more complicated procedures. so a function f : X -> Y is just some "arbitrary" "assignment" of values, for each x in X, of some f(x) in Y
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but this elides a serious and important point, which is, how are you allowed to specify functions then??? the formal way to do this is to describe them as subsets of the cartesian product X x Y in ZF set theory and it's not very satisfying tbh but that is the formal def
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this actually does, thanks!! thinking of functions as specifically defined over the cartesian product actually makes a huge amount more sense than my former intuition. i will need to revisit basic calculus sometime and see if i can get a better grasp.
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also here's a separate response to thinking about *continuous* functions specifically: continuous functions are, loosely speaking, exactly those functions such that you can approximately know their outputs by approximately knowing their inputs
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in other words implicitly assuming that various things behave continuously is largely how science can even get off the ground in the first place, and the less true that assumption is (e.g. chaotic dynamics) the more impossible it is to do science even inprinciple
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