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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
also other stuff like peter singer's drowning-child argument. this is a bigger argument than i want to get into but i think it is bad ethics, i think utilitarianism is bad generally, *and* it is a very tempting trap for a particular kind of hyperanalytical person to fall into
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
one of the dirty secrets of the rat community is that people go insane semi-regularly, like maybe once or twice a year, and i mean full-blown psychotic break i know at least one of these incidents to be tied to rationalist memes interacting poorly with anxiety
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
there are people in the rat and EA communities who have big "scrupulosity" issues - moral anxiety, having to do the most good thing always or else things are terrible and i'm terrible and etc. interacts very poorly with "AI safety is the most important thing"
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🎀 sonya supposedly 🤖
@sonyasupposedly
this is the big thing. people "leave" rationalism (including myself) because the scene didn't help them win — didn't transform them in the way that they wanted. didn't solve their problems and make them happy
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