by far the most important variable is whether the avi is a moderately attractive woman specifically
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esp. if it’s an explicit thirst pose
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hahaha!
Oh, I hope you don't take this as mocking you, QC! I know you don't know about the specifics of the original conversation, so you are 100% absolved from blame!
did you hear?
You are more attractive than me, and also maybe your pic is of a thirst pose! 🤣
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if this is a thirst post I quit 😆
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But I assume that's not what QC meant - he meant that it's much more likely that one of me and you would get a message than him and Visa, because they are boys.
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Yeah, good point. Boys are gross. 😂
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i don’t want to make this a whole thing but i actually believe that i am disgusting and it hurts to hear other people confirm that even as a joke
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One of the strangest things that dating women/kink has taught me is that it is precisely the aspects of myself I was conditioned to believe were "gross" that are most attractive.
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I get it if you guys don’t want to, but could you say a little more about what things you mean by “gross”? Eg. body hair / physical traits, or sexual urges/impulses?
(Those were guesses at things that I think are attractive, but where I can imagine internalizing the opposite)
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idk it’s a whole gestalt thing. somewhere in me i’ve internalized that men are just fundamentally essentially disgusting. inside and out, the whole package
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imo all living things are inherently heckin' gross 😭 but maybe that's not the model people are operating under when they think men are *particularly* gross
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sexual desire is a big part of it (cf. “guys literally only want one thing and it’s fucking disgusting”) but in my tender bits it feels like all male desire is disgusting, all male emotion is disgusting, men are fundamentally ugly, all sorts of stuff like that, it’s a mess 😬
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Do you think this is related to submissiveness? Like, if I want sex I’m bad, so I would rather have it passively... inflicted upon me?
(Bc I would have a similar thing but re: guilt/shame of wanting sex at all.)
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I am sorry to hear that 😔
I’m not sure what to say, other than that’s genuinely not at all my experience of men (and also I think not for many other women), and that I hope/think that you may not always hold that belief.
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it helps to hear that. there’s a good opportunity to do some processing here but also i am so hungry oops
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That's unfortunate! I'm sorry to hear that!
Fwiw, I just don't really like penises. That's about it- but I've, uh, met quite a few that came with attached personalities that were desirable enough to make such appendages desirable as well, by association 😊
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I find it fascinating because it's entirely possible for masculine presentation to be aesthetic and desirable - just look at male dancers! But idk if it's background radiation homophobia or whatever but men seem /strongly discouraged/ from presenting that way?
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Like - watch male leads in a ballet performance, or even just a rehearsal - the beauty! The grace! The strength! The power! The endurance! The flair! The empathy! The romance! 😍
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