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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
speaking of which, i occasionally wonder how much of the energy behind polyamory is due to romantic relationships being, in the US at least, the only normalized way to justify planning your life with someone you're not related to
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
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Replying to @choosy_mom and @liminal_warmth
"hey guys you should definitely spend 4 years bonding deeply with each other and then scatter to the winds planning your lives separately unless you happen to also be having sex with each other"
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
the first poly woman i dated told me, in tears, "i only make friends with people by dating them now" while we were having a conversation about my insecurities, and while it didn't do anything for my insecurities it's stuck with me
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
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not that i particularly have a leg to stand on in my own friendships. i have left behind a lot of friends and i am not happy about it but i also don't know what to do. we weren't meant to try to maintain friendships without periodic *unplanned* physical contact
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
there's a kind of intimacy i had with my high school friends, especially the ones who knew me in middle school, that i *cannot* have with anybody else, because nobody else got to see me grow up like that, and grow up with me; similarly with college
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
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Replying to @liminal_warmth
we normalized moving away from our high school communities to go to college then moving a second time away from our college communities to get a job
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
there's also an intimacy i've never had and never will have, which is with a family i felt loved and understood by. as much as i like the "found family" trope there is something legitimately special about your literal actual family, which is that they *can't stop being family*
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
we talk a lot about "atomization" here on the birdsite and a big component of what that means is that it's normal to leave behind everyone you love except possibly a romantic partner to move cities for a job. everyone is disposable and we all know that about each other
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
i suspect it may be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to form deep friendships under these kinds of disposability conditions. marriage is now the only ritual we have for credibly publicly declaring to other people "this person is not disposable to me anymore"
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-??? w/ COVID 😷)
@QiaochuYuan
i was gonna go somewhere loftier with this but i ran out of steam. the emotional core is just that i'm lonely as shit and don't really know what to do about it. probably some of you are the same and, well, here we are on the birdsite together, hi
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the overpoweredginger
@AdmiralOPG
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@QiaochuYuan
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ABOUT SHE-RA BRO THE ADORA/CATRA KISS AT THE END TURNS A WHOLESOME VICTORY OF TWO TRUE FRIENDS OVER SHARED CHILDHOOD TRAUMA, SELF-DESTRUCTION, SELF-WORTH ISSUES INTO THIS WEIRD LESBO FURRY FETISH THING AND IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE
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lisatomic
@lisatomic5
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@QiaochuYuan
I'm a case where I'm definitely not interested in poly for life-planning reasons. But I sympathize with your friend's position. Intimacy and closeness are much easier to create when you start with a dating frame than otherwise (even though platonic intimacy is possible, IMO).
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Balmoral
@Balmoral225
Woah, good example. This thread points out marriage as a way to say "this person isnt disposable to me anymore", and "famous music duo" definitely fits the same bill.
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