So what about leaders?
What about people who use body language/tone -- charisma --
To lead in a way they believe to be in the best interest of those around them?
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Right!
So my thoughts, until today- had been that manipulation, in itself- was neutral.
The ethics come from intention/ends etc etc
But today I just realized a problem with that way of thinking.
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If I'm, say, playing on a friend's stubborn refusal to be put into boxes to sort of craftily get them to join Twitter because I think it would be good for them-
That may have the intended effect, sure.
But it does nothing to address the core issue- which is that they are still
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vulnerable to being led in that way by people who have less altruistic intentions.
Best case scenario:
Leaders who work to make everyone they know, also leaders.
Who find ways to communicate both the intent,
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and also the way they could have used observations about the nature of the people they're communicating with against them- but didn't.
Empowerment. White hats for people hacking.
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agree with this. i don't think you'd actually want to protect against manipulation completely.
many of the risks i've taken (that ended up working out very well for me) wouldn't have been taken if not for friends/family benevolently manipulating me into taking it
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i think there are parallels here to people who choose never to date again after a bad breakup etc.
you can maybe avoid getting hurt by doing that, but you also block off any chance of finding a better relationship
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maybe the trick is to get good at spotting manipulation when it's happening? that way you can actually consciously decide if you want to do what what the manipulator is leading you towards
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Yeah!
Like, I don't know. I guess I was thinking it would be cool to start using that kind of benevolent manipulation in a way that allows people to both see why you wanted them to make a certain decision--
But also that they were open to manipulation in the first place?
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i think you can just ask bluntly "would you like me to manipulate you into doing X" 😛
This whole train of thought was spurred by this happening this morning
twitter.com/gptbr00ke/stat
I ended up sharing screenshots with that friend of mine, and telling him that I felt bad about it.
I've just since been trying to think more about ways to approach future situations
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Replying to @AbstractFairy
Oh, I had tried to convince a friend of mine to join Twitter this morning, using the judicious retelling of a comment a mutual friend made to me about how they thought he'd like it too much.
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