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apparently i am now the emotions + buddhist shitposting guy

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    1. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Oct 24
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      Malcolm  🙃cean Retweeted Tiago Forte

      For years I pushed back against "everyone's got this cultural trauma". And of course some people have more intense histories and/or more present blockage than others, but in the last few years I've come to appreciate that indeed, everyone is traumatized.https://twitter.com/fortelabs/status/1163320020161585153 …

      Malcolm  🙃cean added,

      Tiago Forte @fortelabs
      Reading about trauma in The Body Keeps the Score, I’m astounded that virtually every challenge w/ productivity ppl I work with face, from difficulty focusing & paying attention to trusting others and relaxing after work, is also a symptom of trauma
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    2. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Oct 24
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      Malcolm  🙃cean Retweeted QC

      That linked tweet and this one are both from a thread talking about how there's a kind of memetic meta-trauma that keeps trauma from being able to be digested & developed:https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1187240332510908416 …

      Malcolm  🙃cean added,

      QC @QiaochuYuan
      Replying to @QiaochuYuan @AdeleDeweyLopez and 3 others
      so now imagine that the trauma-optimized memetic payload is like - do these things and not these other things - punish people for not conforming - punish people for expressing negative emotions about these memes
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    3. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Oct 24
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      Malcolm  🙃cean Retweeted NotRivalVoices

      So I resonate a lot w eg @nosilverv's underlying sentiment here but if expressed as "children have right not to undergo trauma" we're gonna end up with a huge motte-bailey mess. There's no clear lines & the issue isn't trauma but capacity for digesting.https://twitter.com/nosilverv/status/1187346513325891584 …

      Malcolm  🙃cean added,

      NotRivalVoices @nosilverv
      Conceptual political innovation I want: children as having right to not undergo trauma. Sneaks in children rights, which is the most underserved minority I most care about. pic.twitter.com/vYuY6z2XiC
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    4. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Oct 24
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      Malcolm  🙃cean Retweeted QC

      Most people have heard of PTSD, but most people haven't heard of PTG: post-traumatic growth. That sometimes adverse experiences, *when* they're able to be digested & integrated, yield powerful learning. PTSD isn't inevitable from trauma.https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1187248043373948928 …

      Malcolm  🙃cean added,

      QC @QiaochuYuan
      Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean @AdeleDeweyLopez @DavidDeutschOxf
      yeah, thanks for mentioning this, it should go somewhere in the story but i don't have a super clear sense of the mechanism yet. "complex PTSD" is closer to "trauma" the way i'm using it than PTSD as usually understood
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    5. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Oct 24
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      Malcolm  🙃cean Retweeted Malcolm  🙃cean

      And of course part of the issue here is we've got one complex and very loaded word "trauma" that we're throwing around to mean a lot of different things. Necessary to a collective sensemaking here is going to be developing better language & concepts.https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1187249763219070978 …

      Malcolm  🙃cean added,

      Malcolm  🙃cean @Malcolm_Ocean
      Replying to @QiaochuYuan @AdeleDeweyLopez @DavidDeutschOxf
      Yeah we need better ontologies for all of this stuff. @fortelabs seems to be hopping on the "but what about the huge overlooked levels of baseline trauma tho" train too btw: https://twitter.com/fortelabs/status/1163320518088355840 … pic.twitter.com/WnJPqF5r4l
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    6. Bio-Emotive Framework‏ @DougTataryn Oct 24
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      I just refer to them as unresolved emotional impressions. This covers the whole gamut, some of which are traumatic and some of which are simply impressions. Both shape the sense of self and world view. Unresolved +ve impressions still distort a person's perceptions.

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      QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Oct 24
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      Replying to @DougTataryn @Malcolm_Ocean

      i like it doug except that it's too long! need some short snappy words for really fundamental stuff

      9:22 PM - 24 Oct 2019
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        2. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Oct 24
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          Replying to @QiaochuYuan @DougTataryn

          Agreed with Qc on both counts here. Might have to invent new words to talk clearly about this though, either some weird mashup like "unem" (short for Unresolved Emotion) or finding some nice latin root & remixing it. Or ofc a new metaphor, as "trauma" comes from physical trauma.

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        3. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean Oct 24
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          Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean @QiaochuYuan @DougTataryn

          "seldu'u" in lojban would be "that which causes emotional distress", could be shortened for english purposes to "seldu"... ...mmm I think metaphor may be a better bet. In any case, I need to sleep.

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