it's easy to think of trauma as a thing that is like intrinsically bad but from this standpoint the main point is that trauma keeps your responses to situations relatively fixed. so trauma-based culture cannot keep up with rapidly accelerating technological and cultural change
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lemme see if i get this trauma started out as a memetic parasite it probably helped civilizational cooperation, and so didn't get selected out of existence but now that things change to fast, it's maladaptive
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Replying to @AdeleDeweyLopez @QiaochuYuan and
the main thing that feels iffy about this story is the fact that animals seem to experience trauma -- it doesn't seem to be particularly memetic
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yeah, the whole fight-flight etc. system is already there in animals, i guess a better phrasing is that cultural memes take advantage of the existing trauma system to propagate among human hosts
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so the trauma system is for holding onto escape/hide triggers which is (mostly) pointless for us weirdos living in non-violence but we still have trauma bc it got co-opted by parasitic memes? and so almost all trauma in weirdos is going to be bad??
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so maybe instead of saying yes or no i'll try to elaborate on an example in more detail. let's say you had a stern conservative christian dad who beat you when you didn't obey him. your trauma system learns a trauma response to anything that feels like disobedience
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the point of this response is to avoid beatings from your dad which is super super reasonable. but then, in the modern world, something funny happens: at some point you go to college and now nobody beats you anymore. unfortunately the trauma system does not update on this
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one way the trauma system might update, which might have happened all the time to premodern humans, is if one day you cried a lot about how much your dad beat you. but maybe your dad also beat you for crying, and now that healthy trauma processing is cut off
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Replying to @QiaochuYuan @AdeleDeweyLopez and
so it's possible to not only have a primary trauma but to have secondary traumas that make it harder to clear the primary trauma. now factor in the fact that your stern dad was himself beaten by his dad, etc. etc. (plus the effect of e.g. wartime PTSD)
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@DougTataryn talks about the modern world having "cultural alexithymia" - a widespread lack of emotional awareness, of exactly the sort you would need to understand and process trauma-like stuff2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
so now imagine that the trauma-optimized memetic payload is like - do these things and not these other things - punish people for not conforming - punish people for expressing negative emotions about these memes
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Replying to @QiaochuYuan @AdeleDeweyLopez and
Yeah, QC's summary here basically matches my sense. And you can see how this is a stable attractor in memetic evolution space. The attractor in which memes approximately don't evolve is one in which people can't innovate.
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Malcolm 🙃cean Retweeted Malcolm 🙃cean
Worth reading David Deutsch's The Beginning of Infinity for the details on this, or this other book that talks about more of the biology & coevolution of human memes, and how early culture knew more than its people so innovating was not an adaptive move.https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1071612778337705984 …
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