furthermore many people identify with their internal tyrants rather than the rest of them, hence why they talk about willpower (taking the tyrant's POV) instead of about why some asshole in their head keeps trying to make them do stuff
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this is all learned behavior ofc. babies don't do this, neither do tigers. we inherited our internal tyrants from parents and teachers with tyrants of their own, deep ancestral trauma tracing back thousands of years
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the promise of the internal tyrant is that if you submit to it hard enough, external tyrants will be pleased and will take care of you. we are seeing that promise break down all around us, calling us to a more vibrantly alive form of being, at peace and not at war with itself
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what are the consequences of this? isn't this tyrant usually seen as having goals or ideals? - isnt this overall good? isnt every brain system kinda similar to this in a way, all probably seek to kindle themselves into ever greater activation?
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where did the goals or ideals of the tyrant come from? are they your parents'? your grandparents'? your church's? are they still any good now, in 2019?
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That doesn't sound right to me - I don't think that there is any one tyrant, just different coalitions, some of which may temporarily subdue others while facing increasing amounts of resistance.
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Yeah, i don’t know, Kaj. I imagine that different people have different tyrannically-oriented governance subsystems going on in their internal families/internal polities. For some it’s a kind of oligarchy, as you referenced. Others it’s a straight up despotism
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Alternately: no. The part of myself that wants to have energy and be strong is exactly as much my "self" as the part of me that hates exercise. They're not a tyrant and a slave, and I'm not more "authentic" when I watch TV than when I go running.
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I feel myself agreeing with both the original perspective and this one and don't know how to reconcile it Maybe:
@QiaochuYuan is describing the internal experience of someone who does have an internal tyrant, and you're describing the internal experience of someone who doesn't
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All social brains model other individuals they are close to (and somewhat intertwined with, functionally). We internalize others' approaches for making choices so that we can make similar choices, which helps us stay connected to our in group.
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If those around us are less creative, and more punitive/destructive, we model those approaches ourselves. If those around us are more creative and productive, we model those approaches ourselves. Thankfully, the more diversity we see around us, the more options we have.
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