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    QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Jul 3
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    I suspect therapy methods work better the more you believe in and trust them. This means there's something harmful about studying how well therapy methods work and publicizing that information, which is that they can cause the methods to work less well.

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      2. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Jul 3
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        This gets at a common confusion about what it means to "believe" "true" things. @Meaningness has written some about this, and I'm excited that he's writing more: https://meaningness.com/eggplant/opening …pic.twitter.com/yJj5Sy2f6E

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      3. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Jul 3
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        Feeling trust and hope in a therapy method is not a purely mental phenomenon, separated from the world. It has very real physical effects in your body; your autonomic nervous system is doing stuff, your muscle tension is doing stuff, etc.

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      4. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Jul 3
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        Inspiration is actually healing; lack of inspiration may make the difference between a therapy method (or whatever else) making progress or not. That's not something I used to appreciate at all.

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      5. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Jul 3
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        Above for "therapy method" one can also substitute "spiritual path." This stuff seems to get super complicated. Still pondering all this.

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      2. Julia Galef‏Verified account @juliagalef Jul 3
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        Presumably, this is only harmful on net if there isn't much difference in effectiveness between different methods? (The more variation in effectiveness between methods, the more useful it is to have that info, to help you choose wisely)

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      3. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Jul 3
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        I haven't at all made this clear in the OP, but I don't much care about the object-level point; I really don't think meaningful change happens at the level of "let's campaign to stop people from studying therapy methods" or w/e. For me this is a case study in examining "belief."

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      2. Made in Cosmos  💫 Maria Górska-Piszek‏ @made_in_cosmos Jul 3
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        Doesn’t placebo work even if you know it is placebo when you are told that placebo can sometimes work?

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      3. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Jul 3
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        Maybe? Probably not as well. Lots of factors here, like how much you trust doctors and medicine generally.

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      2. Rahul Ramchandani‏ @Rahul_Ramc Jul 3
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        You might like this:https://www.google.com/amp/s/samzdat.com/2017/06/19/the-use-and-abuse-of-witchdoctors-for-life/amp/ …

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      3. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Jul 3
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        Awesome, thanks! I've run into this post a few times but never quite gotten the motivation to read it. Lines up real well with some thoughts I've been having the last few days.

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