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apparently i am now the emotions + buddhist shitposting guy

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    1. Gelassenheit‏ @sulphuroxide May 11
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      I'm not sure that happiness should be the ultimate goal of people. I mean, being happy is just a feeling. Shouldn't we strive to be better people for oneself and society and not the maintenance of one's life for the purpose of a single feeling?

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    2. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan May 11
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      Replying to @sulphuroxide

      happiness was never the point and as far as i can tell thinking happiness is the point is a modern western pathology

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. Matt Goldenberg‏ @mattgoldenberg May 13
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      Replying to @QiaochuYuan @sulphuroxide

      As far as I can tell from doing introspection with lots of coaching clients, something like neverending oneness and bliss is a terminal goal for many people. You can call the goal something like "Congruence" here - but the congruence still seems to be to some sort of felt sense.

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    4. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan May 13
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      Replying to @mattgoldenberg @sulphuroxide

      Yeah, this seems consistent with what I've heard about e.g. core transformation. There's something I'm confused about here in the direction of wireheading, or like, whether humans meaningfully have preferences about the territory as opposed to just the map.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean May 13
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      Malcolm  🙃cean Retweeted Malcolm  🙃cean

      Huh weird. The idea of neverending oneness & bliss sounds super boring to me. I feel like these people actually want this below thing and aren't creative enough to imagine how it could be interesting. (Not suggesting that my "I feel like" is correct)https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1127719448079679489 …

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      I think that when people think they're pursuing happiness, what they actually mean is "I WANT OUT" from the endless internal conflict where nothing they do satisfies all of their strategies. https://twitter.com/RealtimeAI/status/1127429453100003328 …
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    6. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus May 13
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      Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean @QiaochuYuan and

      Neverending uniform oneness & bliss has no separation / difference / change / time, so it's not, like... an experience with a perceived duration that can be boring or interesting or whatever. Infinite variations in approaching it without quite getting there, though

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    7. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus May 13
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      Replying to @SarahAMcManus @Malcolm_Ocean and

      @algekalipso has related thoughts:https://qualiacomputing.com/2016/08/20/wireheading_done_right/ …

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      QC‏ @QiaochuYuan May 13
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      Replying to @SarahAMcManus @Malcolm_Ocean and

      This looks meaty, thanks! And I'm still really feeling my discomfort with wireheading reading this.

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        1. Hunter‏ @TurnkeyTyranny May 13
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          @SarahAMcManus @QiaochuYuan @Malcolm_Ocean you guys are paying attention to the dopest stuff, keep it uppic.twitter.com/X2m2Bgwf7c

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        2. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan May 13
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          Replying to @TurnkeyTyranny @SarahAMcManus and

          i don't know who you are but this is AMAZING

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