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apparently i am now the emotions + buddhist shitposting guy

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    1. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan May 11
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      The attention that's being competed over could be redirected towards people trying to figure out if they're genuinely compatible enough to commit to each other. There's still some competition but this game is much more cooperative.

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    2. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan May 11
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      Unfortunately, compatibility testing for long-term relationships requires a very different kind of skill, which perhaps many people have never learned. Under atomization we've lost the habit of relating to each other on the time scale of years.

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    3. bucket of kets‏ @bucketofkets May 11
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      Were we ever good at relating to each other over the timescale of years, or were we just overwhelmingly more likely to collocate around the same cluster of people over the timescale of years in the past?

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    4. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan May 11
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      Maybe both? I think mostly people didn't used to have a choice, and knew that. You relate to people differently if you're only ever gonna know the same 100 people or w/e, the stakes are different if you can't meaningfully exit.

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    5. uncatherio‏ @uncatherio May 12
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      Yeah - I think right now it's an uphill battle (that we didn't used to have to fight) to *form* committed family-type units. But I have no clue if we're better or worse at sustaining them. Families in the past might've had plenty of dysfunction, even if they would bring you soup.

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    6. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan May 12
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      Pessimistic story is we used to sustain commitments by just taking tons of damage, getting super traumatized and never healing, etc. (e.g. a wife never divorces her husband but just keeps sustaining abuse). You get a kind of stability but at the expense of your soul :/

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      Slightly more optimistic story is extended families / tribes used to have more checks and balances, e.g. husband abusing wife gets caught by grandparents. This would imply the most abusive period was when people had nuclear families but divorce was still hard / stigmatized.

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    8. uncatherio‏ @uncatherio May 12
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      RE damage - gosh yes, good to see this verbalized. This has been in the back of my mind a lot lately (e.g. recently I heard yet another friend talk about getting out of a marriage that they always knew didn't work for them) as I think about making commitments of my own:

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      I really, really value the sort of fluid authenticity that I've found with increased freedom to change things that aren't working, quit hobbies that don't fit anymore, generally succumb way less than I used to to status quo bias. How does that mesh with commitments?

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    10. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan May 13
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      This is THE problem! Oof. My current best guess: commit to people who are seriously willing to do this together with you. Collectively abandon patterns and relationships that aren't working, etc. without losing the overall container and context in which it's happening.

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      Up to and including (and I have personally experienced this) "I thought our relationship was romantic but turns out it wasn't, let's abandon that and figure out a new thing," as opposed to "let's abandon that and also, simultaneously, each other entirely"

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