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apparently i am now the emotions + buddhist shitposting guy

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    1. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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      Off-the-top-of-my head thread! First, the public doesn't have the background to actually understand the scientific case for climate change, or much of anything else for that matter. That's already pretty bad. Very elitist position, still seems true and important to me tho.https://twitter.com/mrgunn/status/1120725228265467905 …

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      Some relevance for #scicomm here. If "climate change is real because facts" isn't working, what lies underneath? Why are narratives & personal stories more effective? https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1120701774849961984 …
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    2. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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      Narratives are mostly the only way we transfer real information to each other as humans, with the rare exception of people who have enough STEM background / IQ / whatever else it is to actually use e.g. logical argument. Narrative is primal / natural.

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    3. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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      At the narrative level, climate change has been swallowed up and irradiated by the culture wars (as have many other topics). Hard to talk about with most people without triggering all of the associated culture war stuff.

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    4. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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      In line with this tweet, mostly arguments about climate change are not about climate change, they're about fighting the culture wars, which bottoms out into something like identity / tribe / belonging feeling under threat:https://twitter.com/QiaochuYuan/status/1116428073757396992 …

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      You know the thing where a husband and wife are arguing about the dishes but it isn't really about the dishes, it's about whether the wife feels loved or the husband feels respected or whatever? I assume by default that this is happening in literally every conversation.
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    5. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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      One of the traditional tactics, of trying to get people outraged about the environment, has stopped working because the outrage market has been saturated by the culture wars. Everyone has more than enough stuff to be outraged about now. Need something else.

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    6. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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      Tons more to say about the shape of the culture wars. Here's the best piece I've found so far, by @peternlimberg and @Ideopunk:https://medium.com/s/world-wide-wtf/memetic-tribes-and-culture-war-2-0-14705c43f6bb …

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      QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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      ...well, tied with this piece by @vgr on @ribbonfarm:https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2018/03/06/a-quick-battle-field-guide-to-the-new-culture-wars/ …

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        2. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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          At the epistemic level, science as a cultural process has been showing serious cracks for awhile (reproducibility crisis, p-hacking, etc). There's a genuine question of how trustworthy it is, and that question is genuinely scary in the aftermath of the death of God.

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        3. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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          Because if we can't trust science or God to tell us what's true, then what can we trust? One of the big questions we need to hold globally. No easy answers, and lots of people are clinging onto or grasping for easy answers.

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        4. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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          At a different narrative level, climate change tells a horrifying story, about a really awful thing that's going to happen and that it doesn't obviously seem like we can do anything about. You need proper "bedside manner" to give people diagnoses like this.

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        5. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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          (This would predict that belief in climate change is correlated with techno-optimism and -utopianism; easier to accept climate change narratively / emotionally if you're also optimistic about technology dealing with it.)

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        6. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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          Climate change tells a story of literally Biblical proportions - a slow, inexorable apocalypse, all of the elements turning against us. And in response you want people to... vote for carbon taxes? It doesn't feel like enough emotionally. Easy to feel powerless, then dismissive.

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        7. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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          There is, for lack of a better word, a spiritual dimension to accepting climate change, similar to the spiritual dimension of accepting death (a kind of grieving), and I haven't seen any science journalism come close to tackling this.

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        8. QC‏ @QiaochuYuan Apr 23
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          So. The real project here, it seems to me, is much bigger than science communication. It's about how to make sense of things as a civilization - "think like a planet" (h/t @SarahAMcManus). I'm very inspired by this @NoraBateson piece:https://blog.usejournal.com/eating-sand-e478a48574a5 …

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