I got fired from an ayahuasca center due to this. Boss fixated on the healing power of belief, and there wasn't room for clear thinking. They didn't want to dwell on the "negative", and so couldn't adequately prevent or mitigate risks. Inadequate first aid kit, etc.
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Replying to @SarahAMcManus @Meta_Aesthetic
Maybe it maps a little bit to predictive processing models of depression & mania? "All your bets are risky, tread cautiously, hunker down, endure." vs "Omg, all your bets are great! Yes! Do more of that, embrace life! Live your truth!"https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/09/12/toward-a-predictive-theory-of-depression/ …
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And the key is -- what is the purpose of the group, and is the approach well-aligned with its environment? An air traffic accident investigation group, probably makes sense to lean dour. A musical improvisation troupe, makes sense to lean a bit manic.
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Many groups need both! For example: "Action hippies" can be found building infrastructure at Burning Man, Ephemerisle, etc - making spaces for spontaneous, creative play, and also dead serious about material tolerances, fire safety, supply lines, etc.
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And, I'd say that humans need both, in our lives as a whole. I guess the fluid mode might be to respond to circumstances dynamically, with a rational, focused, critical approach, or free-flowing, emergent, optimistic -- as needed.
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Like different tools in a toolbelt, or... maybe more like a spectrum of attention. Like how you can turn the hose on a narrow stream to blast something clean, and then turn it back to a wide gentle shower to water plants.
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And other approaches don't just combine different approaches, but integrate, like Nora Bateson's "warm data":https://medium.com/@norabateson/eating-sand-e478a48574a5 …
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Thanks so much for your reply Sarah! Loved the links and examples you gave. This has weighed on my mind because of the feeling of whiplash, living in both very skeptical and very wacky / “woo” groups and having to express myself between the two.
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I know moving in the gradient between both sides is really important but there’s an interesting discomfort or self-consciousness that automatically arises as a response when I switch. The difficulties of metasystematicity in action, I suppose.
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I just read this recent post from
@alifeofmovement - seems you all are thinking about similar things!https://chasingslipstreams.com/2019/04/04/setting-your-worldview-free/ …2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
This whole conversation makes me so happy. 1000% resonate; my version has been too many feelings for rationalists, too many thoughts for circlers :P Love the @NoraBateson piece too, incredibly inspiring as a model for how I want to write about crisis.
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