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Huh, came across questions I had 10 months ago and now I have a new clue towards an answer! @visakanvhttps://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1011952824048111623 …

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And why does this happen? I kind of get why the wrongness thing - punishment. But why have I developed a habit of feeling angry/frustrated instead of feeling the underlying grief? It *consistently* feels better to grieve than to seethe.

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I still don't understand the full structure, but one thing I've learned in the meantime from reading McGilchrist's book on the @divided_brain is that: A) most emotions (grief for sure) are mostly based in RightHem B) anger is based in LHem C) grasping for need to control is LHem

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So from the left hemisphere's perspective, it can maintain its sense of control by feeling anger rather than grief. And having this control matters to it a lot. A well-integrated brain isn't subject to this need for control, but can hold it as part of a larger picture.

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But, as McGilchrist points out, most people in the modern western world don't have well-integrated brains! Our left hemispheres have taken over in a certain ways, and the result is the identification with this need for control & certainty & being right: hence, anger.

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I'm valuing, in this moment, that even as I feel a deepened sense of understanding here, I also feel aware of how much I still don't know. (This too is a hemispheres thing.)https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/979441452114677761 …

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Wonderstand, v. To understand in a way that enhances (rather than diminishes) delight, curiosity, and awareness of the yet-unknown.

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Oh and another thought: Kübler-Ross' 5 Stages of Grief seem to also involve a left→right hemisphere shift! Denial - very very left-hemisphere. Anger - also left-hemisphere Bargaining - ?? Depression - right awakens, left collapsed Acceptance - right, w/ left integratedpic.twitter.com/Cl5fKaTqsp

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Jonny Miller ‏ @jonnym1ller Apr 3

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This is fascinating. It's also worth noting that some indigenous tribes have very different experiences of grief (presumably because they're less lefty-brained):https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/06/01/529876861/an-anthropologist-discovers-the-terrible-emotion-locked-in-a-word …

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Yeah liget is legit. I read that article last year, thought lots about it, & explored it a bit myself. And @QiaochuYuan and I were recently talking about that in relation to the hemispheres. I don't know the details, but defs something more LR-integrated with liget, vs anger.

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I believe I've experienced liget, and it's incredibly frustrating how little room there is for it in modern Western life by default. I was at a memorial service for a friend of mine who committed suicide a year ago, and nobody cried. One person started but *stopped herself*.

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And if there was no room for crying there was certainly no room for screaming or wailing. Closest thing I've seen to an actually satisfying sendoff for the dead, which seemed to me to have some liget in it, is haka, e.g. the Christchurch haka:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUq8Uq_QKJo …

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