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Bin weder Querdenker noch Nazi. Ich bin auch kein Impfgegner oder Coronaleugner. Trump finde ich Scheiße

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Dec 2021

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      Again: Viruses do not necessarily evolve to be milder—especially if they transmit early, like this one. Our immune system learning about it—via vaccines or infection—can mean better response next time, so milder experience. Not same as virus becoming intrinsically less virulent.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1465075561236250631 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      This is a myth. Especially for a virus that can transmit early in disease course, like this one, selection pressure is on transmission, not virulence. So a new variant can be MORE or LESS virulent (when everything else equal, i.e. host immunity). https://twitter.com/soccervolleymom/status/1465074442044850183 …
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      Prinz-Midas‏ @PrinzMidas 7 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      No virus would profit from killing its host. When it mutates it makes sense that it changes lethality for infectiousness. But there might be mutations that could be more lethal by chance, right?

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        1. Ed‏ @eduleal 7 Dec 2021
          Replying to @PrinzMidas @zeynep

          As long as the virus is able to infect more people before it kills its host (i.e. higher viral loads make them more ill AND spreads more, but the latter happens before the former), lethality has no relationship with it. In fact, if it's viral load the driver, it'll be both.

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        2. ghepeu (hic/haec/hoc)‏ @ghepeu 7 Dec 2021
          Replying to @PrinzMidas @zeynep

          A virus doesn't plan, has no notion of profit, doesn't know it's killing its host, it just reproduces itself. Is the virus able to reproduce? If the answer is yes, what eventually happens to the host doesn't matter.

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        3. markinthedark‏ @pre176 7 Dec 2021
          Replying to @ghepeu @PrinzMidas @zeynep

          It’s not merely whether it can reproduce, but whether severe outcomes sufficiently limit that ability. Infectiousness and severe outcomes are very separated in sars-cov2, hence there is little selection pressure either way for virulence.

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        2. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin 7 Dec 2021
          Replying to @PrinzMidas @zeynep

          How long do you suppose the virus spends thinking about this when it's weighing its options before deciding how it will mutate?

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        1. thaddeus x. machina‏ @thaddeusXmachin 7 Dec 2021
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        2. WeAreSoF#cked‏ @WeAreSoFracked 7 Dec 2021
          Replying to @PrinzMidas @zeynep

          I think you’re confusing viruses for capitalists.

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        3. The Essence of Woerm Sin‏ @gothytim 7 Dec 2021
          Replying to @WeAreSoFracked @PrinzMidas @zeynep

          Easy mistake to make though, to be fair.

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        2. Rune‏ @runicrhyme 7 Dec 2021
          Replying to @PrinzMidas @zeynep

          You can't back a virus off with the threat of mutually assured destruction. Virus does not care. Virus has no motivations whatsoever. It will spread if it can spread.

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        3. Rune‏ @runicrhyme 7 Dec 2021
          Replying to @runicrhyme @PrinzMidas @zeynep

          You don't get selective pressure against killing off hosts until enough hosts have actually died to hinder opportunity to infect below R1. That's a LOT of deaths, you realize. A catastrophic number of deaths.

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