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    1. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 8

      Apparently we struck a really raw nerve today in the photojournalism community when we published a piece about free photo sites and tools for newsrooms that are strapped for resources. (Thread)

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    2. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 8

      So let’s talk about this. We want to acknowledge your anger and your concerns. We’ve worked with you. We’ve seen you have to juggle 12 assignments in a day. We’ve seen your colleagues get laid off. We’ve seen space shrink for displaying your work.

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    3. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 8

      We understand the concerns about the integrity of journalism and ethics. And we addressed those in this piece as it related to copyright issues. To the degree that we need more conversation about these sites and ways to present visual journalism online, we’d love to explore that.

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    4. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 8

      But here’s the thing … There is a reality about producing work in the digital space. We’re all having to find a way to impart information on platforms that demand visuals to be noticed.

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    5. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 8

      If you read the piece and take it for what we intended it to be — a solution to a problem that’s being felt acutely by web and social media editors in the digital age with diminishing resources — it’s just that and no more.

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    6. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 8

      We’re not advocating illustrating news stories with stolen images at the expense of hard-working photographers.

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    7. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 8

      From the feedback we’re getting, we know that this message will just scratch the surface of a deeper conversation that probably needs to happen on this topic. But we wanted you to know that we heard you and we’re listening.

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      Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 8

      Some of you have advocated taking the article down or issuing a retraction. We don’t feel either is warranted. But let’s keep the dialogue going, because as one of the writers on the piece said:

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        2. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 8

          “One of Poynter's biggest roles is to serve as a hub for conversation about journalism. I think if we're seeing things one way and they're seeing things another, it's probably only going to help us to host both sides of that conversation.”

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        3. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 8

          So let’s keep this dialogue going.

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        2. Danny Gawlowski‏Verified account @gawlowski Feb 8
          Replying to @Poynter

          @Poynter I do not advocate taking down the article. However, I would be happy to work with @thekalish and @NPPA to write a follow up that can help move this conversation forward. In general, please include visual journalists in the conversation when discussing visual journalism.

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        3. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 9
          Replying to @gawlowski @thekalish @NPPA

          Hi all. We hear you. Talked with @suelmorrow this afternoon, and we're working on publishing a piece that addresses your concerns. Appreciate your outreach.

          1 reply 3 retweets 4 likes
        4. Teak Phillips‏ @TeakPhillips Feb 9
          Replying to @Poynter @NPPA

          You should also talk to Santiago Lyon from Adobe Stock. He ran the a major wore service’s photo operation and now runs the kind of service you suggested using. He’d probably have incredible insight.

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        5. Poynter‏Verified account @Poynter Feb 9
          Replying to @TeakPhillips @NPPA

          Thanks. We'll do just that.

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        6. Teak Phillips‏ @TeakPhillips Feb 9
          Replying to @Poynter @NPPA

          And thanks for tolerating the typos. 👍🏽

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        1. Ken Lyons‏Verified account @kenlyons Feb 9
          Replying to @Poynter

          I didn't initially support the article be taken down but @Poynter should remove it. There are things in it that could get orgs in serious copyright trouble. It's misinformation now being shared by other writing orgs.

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        1. Mike Glenn‏ @glennimages Feb 9
          Replying to @Poynter

          I agree, don’t take it down. It is a great illustration of how bad we have let it become. Of how disconnected and broken our entire industry has gotten. But seriously, what were you guys thinking?

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        1. Kent Nishimura  📷‏Verified account @kentnish Feb 8
          Replying to @Poynter

          I think clarification and an explanation as to why having a visuals staff is important and why commission work is also valueable. The article sends the wrong message. It says “you could hire people to do incredible work, but this is easier. And cheaper” you get what you pay for.

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        1. Damaso Reyes‏ @damasoreyes Feb 9
          Replying to @Poynter

          The mission of @Poynter is to encourage best practices in journalism. This article in no way, shape or form describes best practices. It is a guide to what is destroying visual journalism...

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        1. Viscountess Sharilyn  🌹 🚲‏ @sharilyn Feb 9
          Replying to @Poynter

          The web, even more so than print, is driven by images. Yet in my decade-plus in metro newsrooms, I have seen all visual professionals shortchanged and marginalized more and more. It’s humiliating that Poynter thinks we aren’t worth the trouble at all.

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        1. Ken Lyons‏Verified account @kenlyons Feb 9
          Replying to @Poynter

          Checking for copyright information on Flickr isn't the safest bet. Purchasing a license is. The technology for discovering stolen images on the web has vastly improved. Organizations will be surprised in the coming years the huge number of infringement notices they will receive.

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