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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. samim‏ @samim 11 May 2018
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      Nicely said. Navigating this tension is the art of life, a creative act :) we will find resolution when we die, until then ~ let's play.

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 May 2018
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      Basically, I feel that people should be given a choice. When they think that they want to live in a particular way, and I can get out of their way, I will not want to change their ways, because I expect the same from them.

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    3. samim‏ @samim 11 May 2018
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      Looking forward to a future conversation about the nature of "choice", persuasions, habit etc! Its precisely the core question the tweet explored, from where this thread started. But for now, my 'choice' is to go a 12h flight ;) have a great day !

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 May 2018
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      I just noticed a weird thing: I believe that nobody should make choices for me, especially when it comes to how I should see the world (= meta choices). Most people seem to be fine that others decide over what they think to be true. It could be that I am fundamentally wrong here.

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    5. samim‏ @samim 11 May 2018
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      Certainly an Interesting statement. Take this to its logical conclusion, speak 'fiat lux' and then 'here be dragons' ;)

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 May 2018
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      Absolutely. But this is also what clouds my vision. Who would not like to be enlightened instead of dragonized? It is also too easy to find confirmation for the hypothesis that other people are on average very confused and that indoctrinators are mostly not well intentioned.

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    7. samim‏ @samim 11 May 2018
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      Btw. I tend to agree with your view, I am the decision, all the way to fiat lux. The implications are so rich, that most philosopher (& scientists) tend to insert an weird airbag (e.g crowleys  "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will.")

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 May 2018
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      But it is objectively only in my best interest to make all my choices myself if I have reason to believe that some others act in my best interest and know better what it is than me. Which means that my intuition is misguided, even though it leads to good epistemology.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 May 2018
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      I still think Crowley was correct, but it is one of those statements that are wrong unless you are in exactly the right state of mind, so it is not exactly helpful.

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    10. lithander‏ @pixelpracht 12 May 2018
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      Most of us make the experience as a small child with our parents: They make the decisions, they seem to have our best interest in mind. They know better then us and earn our trust.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 12 May 2018
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      Yes, what you describe is an experience that I am missing. Not because for a lack of loving parents, but because my mind does not seem to be able to switch into that particular mode. I observe the same in my father and my son, so I suspect it's a mutation.

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