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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. samim‏ @samim 10 May 2018
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      samim Retweeted Joscha Bach

      Think bighttps://twitter.com/Plinz/status/994243542871674881 …

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      Joscha Bach @Plinz
      In fact, I think we need to build Gaia if we want our species to survive for a bit longer. We cannot continue as parasites and should create a global nervous system that turns the planet into a single organism. That would be be the most relevant AI project I can think of.
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    4. samim‏ @samim 10 May 2018
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      1) newcomer comment is not targeted at you (expert). its about obvious pitfalls for newbies 2) We are essentially talking about the same thing, call it what you want (Gaia hypothesis, globally connected system using ML etc.) Find it a incomplete model with dangerous sideeffects

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      To clearly articulate why i find the model incomplete/dangerous, would stretch the medium (twitter). But to provoke: Technology is what got us into this mess in the first place, more tech won't fix it. Good starting points: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Mumford …https://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Hope-Toward-Humanized-Technology/dp/0060113782/ …

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 May 2018
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      Elle Barka did not address me directly here, but I am very interested in that topic, and I disagree with the idea that a detailed AI model of all planetary matters that could inform global policy would make matters worse. I also suspect we could get it funded.

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    7. samim‏ @samim 10 May 2018
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      samim Retweeted China Digital

      Model is not inherently wrong, but as said "incomplete" & with dangerous side-effects, which need to be addressed properly. Chinese, Google & NSA are clearly working towards such a "integrated total information awareness cybernetic feedback loop system"https://twitter.com/ChinaMedia1/status/994142319719927809 …

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      China's Social Credit System is a big thing, and most - if not all - mainstream reporting on it contains major factual mistakes. I spent a bit of time and 15000 words to review how it developed. Available freely on: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3175792 …
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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 May 2018
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      China operates under the premise that the government is better at dealing with social and administrative questions than the general public. I the US, it is the other way around. Neither model generalizes for the other side.

      9:14 AM - 10 May 2018
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        2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 May 2018
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          Btw: If you were confronted with a choice between limiting individual freedom or ecological collapse, what would you prefer?

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          I am fully aware of this conundrum - it is the biggest question of our lifetime. What i don't like is the binary way its often stated: Either collapse or cybernetic borg. I strikes me as artificially/ideologically limiting the search space. What viable alternatives can we find?

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          agree with that statement. see https://twitter.com/samim/status/993377763242360832 … and my comments in this threadhttps://twitter.com/samim/status/993065522206883841 …

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          "AI will spell the end of capitalism" - Feng Xiang, one of China’s most prominent legal scholars: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/05/03/end-of-capitalism/ … pic.twitter.com/tm5E7HSYfd
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