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    1. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 2 May 2018
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      My position on metaethics in a nutshell: Them: Ah, but what do you mean by "Friendly"? Me: Pal, I'm not going to let you get turned into paperclips because you couldn't figure out how to make words mean things.

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    2. Evan O'Leary‏ @EvanOLeary 2 May 2018
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      So not a position on which metaethical view is best, but a position on what resources should be devoted to studying metaethics? And your view is simply annoyance that people won't give you a pass on that, because you think metaethics is unimportant to FAI for other reasons?

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 May 2018
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      Nope, he is just annoyed that some people don't see his little but well reasoned pet peeve that AI is probably going to eat us because it is outside of their socially constructed window of sanity. (He also appears to somehow see a self evidence that AI eating us would be bad.)

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    4. Evan O'Leary‏ @EvanOLeary 3 May 2018
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      Well yes, but his wanting the paperclip type errors not to happen doesn't seem to me to constitute a meta-ethical view.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 3 May 2018
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      Replying to @EvanOLeary @ESYudkowsky

      In a way, the universe is already turning into paperclips. Why is it bad if evolution produces a series of events that changes the design of these clips, and what is the meta ethics that can provide that result? (Eliezer’s take on meta ethics is cute snark here.)

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        2. Jotto999‏ @Jotto999 4 May 2018
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          Distancing yourself from human preferences: useful up to a point, beyond which lays the philosophical corpses of many angsty teenagers, uselessly saying "But why prefer anything? That's so anthropocentric!".

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 4 May 2018
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          Since we are talking about a scenario that involves new types of minds, you are not getting away with your common sense cutesies.

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        2. Evan O'Leary‏ @EvanOLeary 4 May 2018
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          Ah so meta ethics can't help solve the problem of distinguishing paperclip-like from non-paperclip-like futures, so that we could design non-paperclip-like ones? But I don't see why it can't. I wish he would have provided an argument.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 4 May 2018
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          Replying to @EvanOLeary @ESYudkowsky

          Hey, it's Twitter. Perhaps it is reasonable to expect that Eliezer prefers to use it as a dumping ground for his jokes (and this was a good one!) rather than his journal articles.

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