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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 May 2018
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      Replying to @Grady_Booch @ellebarka

      Evolution is a fascist slaughterhouse. Nothing is the universe has caused more suffering than evolution. Perhaps we can use AI to end it?

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    2. Grady Booch‏Verified account @Grady_Booch 1 May 2018
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      Your words imply a degree of intentionality: evolution is as indifferent to all life just as the sea is indifferent to me when I step from the shore.

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 May 2018
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      Fascism is the only form of state level social organization that is fully aware of evolution, and embraces group selection as normative purpose. Evolution is racist, speciecist and genocidal: not intentionally, but via functional emergence.

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    4. samim‏ @samim 1 May 2018
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      Are you calling for more fascism here or am I misunderstanding? Intellectual games are fun, until they are not...

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 May 2018
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      I don’t think evolution is unfair, because fairness depends on the rules of the game, and evolution is a game in which you cannot cheat if you play it. And there are local optima that may prevent society from falling into the attractor of the global optimum.

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 May 2018
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      Also, my ideas of good and evil must be kept in a different place than my own moral programs. I try to understand which bits need to be flipped to turn one person into another. In understanding I try to be everyone, every possible self consistent mind.

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    8. samim‏ @samim 1 May 2018
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      What are the dangers of trying to understand everything and be "everyone" (a attempt at extreme info compression)? The probability of ending up just confused and a "nobody" strike me as high. Beyond that, agree that believes are just a tool - yet morality still important/useful

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 May 2018
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      At my most unconfused level, I am really nobody. I am just a story generated in a mind. That most basic identification, my mind, is a thing that makes models, if something makes it do so. Morality does not exist at this level, just as atoms have no temperature.

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    10. samim‏ @samim 1 May 2018
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      Agree, standard morality is very surface/cultural & is stripped away (alongside most of perception) by a mid>high dose of DMT for example. There are lower level "drives" though i would argue, that are much harder to get rid of > possibly "the drive towards life", but who knows ;)

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 May 2018
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      All purposes are constructs. They are models of our needs. But the needs are not terminal, they are just primed to be. We can create purposes that allow us to create and follow plans that let us shortcircuit or evade our needs.

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