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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 27 Apr 2018
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      if you kick good out of the throne of your spirit,, another egregore appears to take his place choose your egregore wisely is what im saying none of us are free of divinities https://twitter.com/ARossP/status/989819610940747776 …

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    2. Dan listens to the world changing‏ @danlistensto 27 Apr 2018
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      oh my. you can't just tell atheists about the atheism egregore. not without a mop handy, anyway.

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    3. Szymon Majewski‏ @brewingsense 27 Apr 2018
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      Still, the way Peterson uses language here is nonsensical. Atheist are still humans, and therfore "religious creatures" in the broad sense, but to say that you can't be an atheist because of that is stupid provocative semantics.

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    4. Dan listens to the world changing‏ @danlistensto 27 Apr 2018
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      I'm willing to forgive his stretching of conventional semantics here. Atheism in the 21st century is definitely a kind of theism. It's a reaction against theistic institutions and beliefs. It's not an alternative to theism. It should really be labeled anti-theism.

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    5. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot 27 Apr 2018
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      Strong v weak atheism Positive belief in no god vs lack of belief Seems like most(?) atheists in former camp Actually I think I was going off on the general case of this yesterday hm

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    6. Dan listens to the world changing‏ @danlistensto 27 Apr 2018
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      lack of belief is just a non-committal position. it's either apathy or agnosticism (in the conventional, not original sense). we have so many cultural fences in our minds that most people get to the border and set up a tent city rather than venture out into the unknown.

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 27 Apr 2018
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      It is a lack of identification with the non-belief. "I don't believe that whales are a kind of fish" will not spawn cults. Atheism as a movement is based on an identification with a belief, which gives rise to a culture war.

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    8. Dan listens to the world changing‏ @danlistensto 27 Apr 2018
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      precisely. this is why I'm calling it anti-theism rather than atheism.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 27 Apr 2018
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      I call it para theism

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    10. Dan listens to the world changing‏ @danlistensto 27 Apr 2018
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      possibly comes in 2 variants? negative para-theism (anti-theism) and positive para-theism (spiritual but not religious)?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 27 Apr 2018
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      No, I mean that it constructs a cult from the idea of not joining a cult. It would even work for agnosticism, ie one could make a cult about being indecisive about joining a cult

      3:14 PM - 27 Apr 2018 from Manhattan, NY
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