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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 29 Mar 2018
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      https://xkcd.com/1968/  is #TheLastDerail in a nutshell. I can try to imagine hypotheses, but I'm not sure why Randall Monroe thinks this a clever thing to say. If I wrote a fictional character saying this straight out, I'd be accused of writing a 2D straw character.

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    2. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay 29 Mar 2018
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      Not saying that I would agree with Monroe, but it seems pretty clear to me why he might think that "I'm more worried about a concrete risk that's looming right now than a long-term speculative one, let's focus on first getting through the urgent one" would be important to say.

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 29 Mar 2018
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      These are really two different topics, one with high probability and moderate impact, and one with unknown probability and terminal impact. They should not be conflated despite both being somewhat related to AI.

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    4. Billion Dollar Grift Card  🍞 🌹 🏡 🏥‏ @pastinaco 30 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @Plinz @xuenay @ESYudkowsky

      Calling the impact of autonomous weapons "moderate" requires a hyperlocal -- some would call it parochial -- perspective.

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 1 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @pastinaco @xuenay @ESYudkowsky

      Someone who cannot realize that hundreds of thousands dying is a moderate problem when compared to everyone dying is lacking perspective, no?

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    6. Billion Dollar Grift Card  🍞 🌹 🏡 🏥‏ @pastinaco 1 Apr 2018
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      No. The point was that n100k deaths only looks "moderate" because you're comparing to something from a different epistemic category. One thing already happens but you can't see it. The other (the hyperlocal one) is literally all in your head.

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    7. Billion Dollar Grift Card  🍞 🌹 🏡 🏥‏ @pastinaco 1 Apr 2018
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      It would be bad heuristics even if it didn't lack empathy. But if it were just bad heuristics I wouldn't get snippy about it on Twitter. Your mental habits are your problem, not mine. Sociopathic memes are everybody's problem ;-)

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @pastinaco @xuenay @ESYudkowsky

      Your failure to have an empathetic reaction if billions die instead of thousands appears as a virtue to yourself? Even to the point where you believe that your empathetic instincts should guide policy considerations?

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    9. Billion Dollar Grift Card  🍞 🌹 🏡 🏥‏ @pastinaco 2 Apr 2018
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      "Billions die" is a fact-in-dispute. You can't just declare it to be a fact-in-evidence without providing some, you know... evidence. "Virtue" is just stories we tell ourselves in order to simplify strategic decisions. What strategy do you think I'm pursuing here?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @pastinaco @xuenay @ESYudkowsky

      I don't know. Rationalization of opinions you assimilated in the course of compulsive virtue signaling, perhaps?

      12:08 PM - 2 Apr 2018 from Austin, TX
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        2. Billion Dollar Grift Card  🍞 🌹 🏡 🏥‏ @pastinaco 2 Apr 2018
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          Ha ha, you made a funny. That's not a strategy though. That's like a goal, or an intent, or a purpose, depending on what terminology you like. No, the goal here is to discourage a pathological meme. The strategy was making it costly for you to do that by wasting my own time...

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 Apr 2018
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          The thought that all humans may perish soon makes me increasingly happy; thank you.

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