Hypothesis: domestication in pets is largely the result of selection for permanent childhood, so the pet never becomes fully autonomous and borrows top level intentions from parental authority. And homo sapiens is a domesticated hominid.
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Replying to @Plinz
It is a good hypothesis. Humans definitely show strong signs of neoteny. But autonomy is not necessarily hampered. I think the real reason is greater abstraction and generalisability, less adaptation to specific niches.
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I don't see it ; domestication presumably selected something, but if it feeds the kitties and keeps out predators what is childish? Playing, I suppose? But that must be quite recent, until 100ish yrs ago I guess domesticated mostly meant helping on the farm?
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Replying to @chrisfcarroll @vakibs
I think mammal infants are unable to make high level survival relevant decisions; their self lacks a top level which is borrowed from caring adults. This mode is signaled to the adults, which in turn have a compulsion for taking responsibility.
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I agree with you
@ellebarka broadly that beauty and childlike appearance has positive effect on selection. But@plinz is convinced that mind-control has a beneficial role to the society or the individual. My argument is to gently nudge him that it is not necessarily the case. :)1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
That was not my argument. There is evidence that enlightened rationalism works well for some communities, which gives me hope. But the currently dominant cultures are largely the results of large-scale mind control techniques that co-evolved with us.
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Btw, I think that your difficulty to not see the world through a moral lens (i.e. as a differential between what is and what should be) is the result of deep infestation by parasitic mind viruses. Very hard to get out, since it works by making you consider it part of our identity
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Come on :) You are equally putting words into my mouth.
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