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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Kitt Johnson‏ @KittJohnson_ 16 Mar 2018
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      Signal vs. Noise - if you have something useful to say, why add the snarky comment?

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    2. David Kedmey‏ @DKedmey 16 Mar 2018
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      If Human G.I., like Popper and @daviddeutschoxf. and those who agree, e.g. Kitt and me, conclude that conjecture and criticism are the PB&J of knowledge creation, maybe an AGI would as well. It's possible, even likely...or maybe inevitable (not ironic)? Possibly moronic.

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 16 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @DKedmey @KittJohnson_ @DavidDeutschOxf

      The basic rule of epistemology is that the confidence in a belief must equal the evidence that supports it. All knowledge is conditional, you have to retrace everything. Asking for being critical assumes the default is trust in imposed belief, but the default must be sceptic.

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    4. Kitt Johnson‏ @KittJohnson_ 17 Mar 2018
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      Beliefs have no place in science, nor does ‘confidence’ have any bearing upon whether some theory is true or not.

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 17 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @KittJohnson_ @DKedmey @DavidDeutschOxf

      Do you believe that?

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    6. Kitt Johnson‏ @KittJohnson_ 17 Mar 2018
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      I understand the idea, but I don't believe it. You are missing the point. Belief requires an acceptance that something is true, often without explanation. If one wanted to perform an exerperiment correctly, would you a) believe in it or b) perform conjecture and criticism?

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 17 Mar 2018
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      Perhaps we merely disagree about terminology? I would say that I should believe it to the degree to which observation, data, reasoning and conjecture lead me.

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    8. Kitt Johnson‏ @KittJohnson_ 17 Mar 2018
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      Not terminology - the disagreement arises from conflicting ideas about certainty in science. No amount of evidence can increase the likelihood of something being true. Progress happens via the replacement of theories - which many contain some knowledge - with better ones.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 17 Mar 2018
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      I agree that the likelihood of the ground truth is unaffected by evidence, but believe that our confidence is.

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    10. David Kedmey‏ @DKedmey 17 Mar 2018
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      I don't believe in dinosaurs, but they are the best explanation for why we see fossils. I believe in dinosaurs because they are the best explanation for fossils. I guess these statements have the same scientific content. But I do prefer the later.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 17 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @DKedmey @KittJohnson_ @DavidDeutschOxf

      Once every belief is fully conditional, our modeling is pure symbol manipulation, and ”I” is merely the index of an observer.

      11:30 AM - 17 Mar 2018
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        2. David Kedmey‏ @DKedmey 17 Mar 2018
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          Interesting. What do you mean by "fully conditional"?

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 17 Mar 2018
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          It means that you no longer have a full or partial belief in your world view that you hold unconditionally of its support.

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