Solipsism and “it's all an illusion” can both explain all available data completely. But most of us reject them. Empiricism is very fashionable since C18, with naturalism/physicalism just now being challenged by a resurgent panpsychism but likely to stay ahead for a while. …
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The nature of discernible truth is the set of theories that can explain the observations. The theory that there are others with minds similar to mine has more explanatory and predictive power than its negation, no?
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I think “No” is the correct answer? The solipsist could make the same prediction about p-zombies as I might make about people, and then he could grumble, “but as for this fanciful notion of ‘other minds’ so-called, what explanatory power does that add?”
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Oh, but I *am* a p-zombie, as far as I know! I think I can show that my conscious experience is a fake memory.
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Do go on?
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I experience myself as acting on the here and now, with synchronized sensory modalities, which is all clearly impossible. I cannot even have a time-delayed experience, because of the duration of the sense-act loop.
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This is amusing, but I don't think it relates to p-zombies? Shall I rephrase: The solipsist can make the same prediction about human bodies as I make about people and then grumble, “but as for this fanciful notion of ‘other minds’ so-called, what explanatory power does it add?”
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It depends on what you understand as "mind". I think of it as a system that is capable of modeling an environment, and its own interaction with that environment, in our case in the service of regulation of the dynamics of organisms under conditions of multi-level selection.
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Replying to @Plinz @chrisfcarroll and
My personal self is story about a fictional character that my brain tells itself. Phenomenal experience happens to that character, not to the brain. The simulated character gets access to the language center and tells itself and everyone else how very blue the blue looks today.
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So do you mind if I come back to this (I took “we are not conscious in actuality” as a statement of pzombie-ism/illusionism?) & prod the story? 1st: the link to language centre seems beside the point? I often admire the blueness of the sky without talking about it. /
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Yes, important is only the ability to access memories about access to the memories. But the language center is what creates all our problems we have with philosophers of mind.
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Replying to @Plinz @Grady_Booch and
Ok, I think that makes sense to me. (& that 1st sentence was deliberate, not a dittograph?) (I'm tempted to ask whether "…philosophers of mind" is replaceable by "…all intellectual endeavour, ever" in 2nd sentence?) but anyway, what I wanted to say was,
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Replying to @chrisfcarroll @Plinz and
The adjectives "fictional" and "simulated" suggest you mean to say that phenomenal experience is not real?
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