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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Mar 2018
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    Every few years, there seems to be some brain theory that appears to have immense explanatory power to a lot of people and turns out to be largely off the mark, like "left brain/right brain", "mirror neurons", and now "dopamine reward". Will this ever stop? And what's next?

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      2. samim‏ @samim 11 Mar 2018
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        isn't "the brain is a classical computer" the mother of all of these "pop science" over-simplifications? ;)

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Mar 2018
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        To be a computer means little more than the ability to move from state to state in a nonrandom fashion. Sometimes I get the impression that you oppose reductive thought because your religion is an essentialist version of the god of the gaps.

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      2. Ralph Holz‏ @ralphholz 10 Mar 2018
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        Maybe, though maybe the label is not as important as the symptom it is describing. As I understand as a non-expert, human behaviour regarding mobile and app resembles forms of addiction. On hype cycles - these occur in CS too. SOA. WS-*. Cloud. AI. Blockchain.

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Mar 2018
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        Oh, I did not mean to say that Facebook does not disrupt our attention with addictive stimulation! It is just that the stories that we tell about dopamine in that context might be only vaguely related to the functional mechanisms that are actually involved.

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      2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Mar 2018
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        Replying to @jamesproud

        I am referring to the theories that made it so much into pop psychology that nobody sees a reason to remember the source any more.

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      2. Alexander Singleton‏ @Marksing 11 Mar 2018
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        grateful to have found researcher interested in brains same way as me. I wonder whether you think the answer is basically Psi theory or not quite.

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Mar 2018
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        The Psi theory is largely a theory of motivation, and I still think that it is largely correct (but needs to be extended by secondary effects due to the cortically learned structure of the self). But my view on representation has changed during the last 10 years.

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      2. bowser‏ @browserdotsys 10 Mar 2018
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        Predictive processing, if you believe @slatestarcodex ?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 10 Mar 2018
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        You never know what catches on. "Slow and fast brain (system one/system two)" had so much potential, yet the public still largely ignores it. Perhaps because we have not established a way to talk about sex differences with it?

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