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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Bret Weinstein‏Verified account @BretWeinstein 6 Mar 2018
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      Bret Weinstein Retweeted Sean Ono Lennon

      The very fact that anyone thinks anything is almost impossible to reconcile with a fully deterministic view. On the other hand, @SamHarrisOrg's perspective robs us if free will without physical determinism. If some version of the question is worth sleeplessness, that's the one.https://twitter.com/seanonolennon/status/971223011087990784 …

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      Sean Ono LennonVerified account @seanonolennon
      Those scientist who believe the Universe is deterministic, then do they think no one is ever guilty of any crime? Is there guilt w out free will? Sorry I’m jet lagged. @EricRWeinstein @BretWeinstein
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    2. Bret Weinstein‏Verified account @BretWeinstein 6 Mar 2018
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      To be clear: worrying about determinsm comes very close to proving the universe is not deterministic. That does not, however, prove one has meaningful free will.

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 Mar 2018
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      That is a misunderstanding. The universe seems reversible, so it is almost certainly deterministic, but that is unrelated to free will. Free will is the ability to act on what one believes to be right (as opposed to act on compulsion). Randomness would destroy intentionality.

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    4. Mat Balez‏ @matbalez 6 Mar 2018
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      So it follows that if randomness exists at the heart of our biological brain function that free will is not possible (ie I cannot be intentional), correct?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 Mar 2018
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      Our brain is a probabilistic system, which means that it is deterministic with an offset of randomness. By definition, only the deterministic part can be determined by your intentions.

      11:10 PM - 6 Mar 2018 from Somerville, MA
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        2. SteelmanPodcast‏ @SteelmanPodcast 6 Mar 2018
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          What determines your intentions?

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 Mar 2018
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          Intentions are determined by the regulation architecture that gets entrained into our nervous system by our motivational rewards and the models we form.

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        2. Mat Balez‏ @matbalez 6 Mar 2018
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          Right. And so does this lead you to conclude that we have some, but not completely, free will? And if so in what proportion is it free? Or put differently, how large is the role of random offset?

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 6 Mar 2018
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          The randomness is irrelevant because we are not responsible for it; it manifests as confusion, tremors and tics. We must be concerned about the deterministic part that is not accountable to our purposes. The opposite of free will is compulsion.

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