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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Feb 2018
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      Home is where my government has a backdoor https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/14/fbi-nsa-cia-warn-against-huawei-smartphones/ …

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    2. samim‏ @samim 14 Feb 2018
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      Home is where my government is in an protectionists trade war with the country which it is indebted with the most?

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Feb 2018
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      The NSA is not targeting Foxconn or other Chinese phone makers. I think it is not unreasonable to assume that not only the US installs backdoors, and someone really saw grounds to be upset.

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    4. samim‏ @samim 14 Feb 2018
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      "NSA is not targeting Foxconn etc" is unlikely. Evidence of related cases (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/nsa-spying-brazil-oil-petrobras … / https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/nsa-spied-on-eu-politicians-and-companies-with-help-from-german-intelligence/ … etc.etc.etc) points towards a different reality. The interesting question for me is, how much are NSA & Chinas efforts privatised and unified by now?

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Feb 2018
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      The US government makes a suspicious show of being angry at Apple for crypto, but does not warn against their Chinese suppliers. State surveillance is not fully privatized, because it needs to be tightly controlled, and US and China governments are not allies but competitors.

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    6. samim‏ @samim 14 Feb 2018
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      On the surface, it's hard to disagree. But considering the following makes one paranoid: A) all critical data of global societies are in databases. B) all databases are inherently insecure and leak all the time. C) obtaining and merging databases is technically *very* easy.

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Feb 2018
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      With the WL and Snowden revelations we have passed the surveillance Singularity. (Actually a few years before that if you were paying attention.) There is no more additional reason for paranoia now, we are firmly in the age of perfect surveillance, and we better get used to it.

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    8. samim‏ @samim 14 Feb 2018
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      totally agree & "the surveillance singularity" is a useful term. I'm not arguing along the lines of "oh no, it's all bad, make it go away!" > I'm questioning what global society should/can do with it's new cybernetic panopticon capabilities and who gets to part of the discussion.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Feb 2018
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      I think we now have to put all our energies and hopes into strengthening pluralist rational liberalism. Governments are not going to give up these tools once they have them, but we must be worried about what motivates our governments and what constraints they operate under.

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        2. samim‏ @samim 14 Feb 2018
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          Very nicely said and agree. To put a finer point on this, consider this:pic.twitter.com/GomK4aLgR5

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Feb 2018
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          I think any attempt to characterize the problems of the world as moral failings is futile. People will always act on what they consider to be their best interest under the circumstances.

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