All that is meaningless is pre-determined, I don't think I can tie the two together like you do!
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Replying to @likeplastic_ @Plinz
What else do you imagine there is? And why would something that has a purpose (a direction) be meaningless?
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Replying to @thewiseturtle @likeplastic_
Directions and purposes are different things.
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Replying to @Plinz @likeplastic_
They are the same in most definitions, which are both essentially mapping a goal relative to a starting point.
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Replying to @thewiseturtle @likeplastic_
You are mixing description and prescription.
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Replying to @Plinz @likeplastic_
If by "prescription", do you mean that you add some kind of supernatural element beyond the math when you hear "purpose"? Because I'm not. Purpose and direction are simply mathematical terms for moving things from time 1 to time 2.
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Replying to @thewiseturtle @likeplastic_
Not supernatural, but you need to define an agent with regulation goals with respect to which a purpose exists. A direction is simply a vector in some space.
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Replying to @Plinz @likeplastic_
I don't add that supernatural "agent" to things. There is simply movement from point A to point B. (Or more points, of course.) Cause and effect.
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Replying to @thewiseturtle @likeplastic_
As I said, there is nothing supernatural to agents, but you cannot simply cheat and equate direction and purpose.
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Replying to @Plinz
I would consider you to be the one "cheating" to add some kind of agency to reality. That is what I consider to be supernatural. There is no agent. Just existence, emerging out of the very structure of reality.
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I don't think this discussion serves a purpose. It unfortunately just exists.
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Replying to @Plinz
The purpose/direction I see to reality is entropy/evolution - aka taking apart simple things and combining the parts in new ways - using pure randomness to cover all possible combinations of matter and energy. Otherwise existence would be incomplete.
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