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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Jan 2018
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    To truly appreciate another person's insight, you need to be able to retrace their mental process that created it, and often even the process and circumstances that led to the formation of that mental process.

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      1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Jan 2018
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        Yes, because it forces you to build higher level models. (And btw., appreciating your own insights generally improves if you know how you got them, and you therefore have a model of how much you can rely on them.)

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      1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 25 Jan 2018
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        Don't worry, it terminates once you know everything. :)

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      2. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay 25 Jan 2018
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        Depends on how we define "appreciate" and "circumstances"; my own insights sometimes feel too obvious to be worth saying, whereas someone else's insights seem brilliant exactly because I *haven't* been as thoroughly immersed in the material that makes it feel boringly obvious.

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 26 Jan 2018
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        Yes, "appreciate" also means "to comprehend in all its detail". Something that might seem like a groundbreaking insight from one perspective may be an minor nail holding two important planks together from another.

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      2. Jing 靖源‏ @joekina 25 Jan 2018
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        Sounds like the reading tips on this page: http://worrydream.com/Links2013/ pic.twitter.com/gWNdThI5E1

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      3.  🐜 🐻‏ @ultimape 25 Jan 2018
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        The hard part is tracing ideas in networks and across time. I suspect worrydream was adjacent to later stages of this kind of discussion when he wrote that piece. http://lesswrong.com/lw/1yq/understanding_your_understanding/ … and http://lesswrong.com/lw/818/how_to_understand_people_better/ …

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