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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 18 Jan 2018
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      Fortunately a cosmos with agency is a figment of the imagination of its agents.

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    2. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 18 Jan 2018
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      Cosmic agency is beyond the human imagination.

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 18 Jan 2018
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      If we can in principle have no evidence then we must have no confidence. All actions and beliefs based on nonzero confidence in cosmic agency are therefore refering to a fantasy, regardless of the actual groundtruth.

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    4. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 18 Jan 2018
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      Do you believe that humans have agency?

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Jan 2018
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      Yes, I see it as the ability to define and act on one's goals. Kegan's stages describe a ladder of increasing agency.

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    6. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 19 Jan 2018
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      I can go both ways on what I'm about to say but if humans have agency then that may be evidence that the universe does. A subset of those goals may well be in service of the universe's agency.

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Jan 2018
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      I think that agency only makes sense as part of a model of an intentional system: Something must care. The universe is very likely not equipped with means and reasons to care, and even if it did, that could not manifest in ways that ground our own agency.

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    8. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 19 Jan 2018
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      The translation of human-centric motives to the possible agency of the universe doesn't hold up, but that doesn't mean the universe doesn't have some impetus to develop that includes the emergence of intelligent agents within it.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Jan 2018
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      I think that it may not be the universe, but evolution, and the universe just holds the possibility for evolution. And the global optimum of evolution is not the conscious mind, but the perfect devourer. We are just a defective local optimum.

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    10. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 19 Jan 2018
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      Ouroboros

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Jan 2018
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      Why?

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        2. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 19 Jan 2018
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          Ultimate devourer

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Jan 2018
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          The way I see it, self-organizing structure is only supported in very small regions of the universe; life feeds on tiny bubbles of negentropy that are not already eaten up by more efficient, dumb chemical reactions, until entropy suffocates it.

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