I think we live that right now - a world where a lot of people if not most expect a world but find our world, some just refuse to acknowledge that.
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Replying to @JMoVS
Obviously, and it has been like that for most of history. The question is if that is the condition that leads to the best outcome.
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Replying to @Plinz
1) define best outcome 2) define time of assessment of outcome I think between now and that hypothetical land is a very uncanny valley
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Replying to @JMoVS
The question is not about what trajectory to take to whatever society you think you should prefer (an important but different question), but about whether a society based on enlightenment values would have in your view preferable outcomes over the alternatives.
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Your view on how to rank outcomes may choose to include the subjective or principled judgement space of all other members to various degrees and on various condition. I must ask for YOUR outcome metric, since there is no optimum that could max out everyone's individual metric.
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The basic assumption is that humans make rational choices under ideal conditions. Just ask the people who committed suicide after the 2007 stock market crash. Men aren't rational, conditions aren't ideal, people make a lot of bad choices.
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Replying to @muralipiyer @JMoVS
Why not ask those people that did not commit suicide after the 2007 stock market crash instead?
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Outcome is being defined by those who survive. There is an inherent bias built in.
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Replying to @muralipiyer @JMoVS
Yes, and how do you judge that outcome, respectively?
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That's why we should work with the assumption that knowledge is not complete. If the system is not perfect, we can work with approximations and accept that we have to live with errors.
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That is not an assumption, it is an obvious, provable fact. Given sufficient resources we will devote an appropriate part of our rationality to quantifying the uncertainty.
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The assumption made here is that uncertainty is quantifiable. That piece of knowledge is what we should forego in the modelling. We will always lack full knowledge and complete resources.
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Replying to @muralipiyer @JMoVS
The quantifiability of uncertainty is not an assumption, you can test and confirm that hypothesis, and also derive it a priori. The sentence "we will always lack full knowledge and complete resources" must have qualifiers because it depends on the context of what you model.
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