i don't really desire to define good and evil. anyway, i got into ranting mode. in essence, i do not disagree with you at all.
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Replying to @paniq @DavidDeutschOxf
Yes you did, and also we do disagree, and I think it might be valuable if you continue the thought without passion (caused here by moral feeling!), and with great care get to the root of the nature of good and evil.
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Replying to @Plinz @DavidDeutschOxf
no moral feelings. okay. you want my definition of good and evil? it's simple. it's a dichotomy that separates what is damaging or hurtful to an individual, a thing, a group of individuals, or all of us, from what is furthering; maintaining, improving it. BUT.
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i don't really subscribe to that simplistic worldview. i define concepts of good as a fantasy, a selection of arbitrary choices. put two people in a room, have them discuss good and evil, and without fail they'll find a thing whose category they can not agree on.
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Replying to @paniq @DavidDeutschOxf
I don’t think it is very simplistic what you said. Replace individuals with systems of purpose. Individuals are rarely only identified with their organism, but with principles that organize their foodchain (metaphorically and practically, in an evolutionary context).
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Replying to @Plinz @DavidDeutschOxf
sure. you can apply these concepts to anything, but i find the dichotomy primitive. let alone because it _is_ a dichotomy. there are plenty of things that fall in neither or both categories.
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it all depends on how much god-status you have relative to a thing; are you deeply embedded in the grit of existence? then surely you have strong opinions on what is good or bad. are you hovering above it all? then what does good or bad even mean? it's just ... moving.
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Replying to @paniq @DavidDeutschOxf
Less romantically put: your sense of good and evil depends on your particular identification with extrapersonal purposes. Conflicts about good and evil usually result from different identification.
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but i often feel strangely detached even from my own fate, so i wouldn't say it's exclusively extrapersonal. even the personal can be observed from a distance.
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That’s what I meant: extra=outside of the person. It can be a social principle, or even a transcendental one. (Christian and Islamic Gods are functionally identifications with a social superorganism. Evil is an alien God.)
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