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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 13 Jan 2018
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      States = matter/location - Transition functions = energy/relationships between matter/locations Maybe?

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 13 Jan 2018
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      Matter and energy are not primary. They are concepts that we use as parts of a model of the apparent physics engine we find ourselves in. There is only information (discernible differences) that indicates changes in other information (transitions).

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    3. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 14 Jan 2018
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      I am simply translating the terms you used into the terms most humans use. You theory is the same thing, just with a different frame.

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jan 2018
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      Seriously, no. If you play a computer game like minecraft, does it makes sense that you assume matter and energy in that game to be primary? That would be a big mistake!

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    5. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 14 Jan 2018
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      Nouns and verbs. States and functions. Matter and energy. Characters and actions. All the same things. All the things that we use to tell stories about reality, at any level.

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jan 2018
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      This is terrible.

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    7. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 14 Jan 2018
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      That's a rather extreme reaction to a fairly reasonable offering of translation.

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    8. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jan 2018
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      It is as if you were translating "Undine" as "Ariel the Mermaid". You don't serve truth. You simply translate to the model you think you already have, because it's good enough for you and therefore good enough for the children. There is no graver sin for the disciples of logos.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jan 2018
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      For you, these concepts seem to be just incantations that create colorful associations in the mind of an audience. They are interchangeable, for words that produce similar nebulas. This is not what I am interested in.

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    10. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 14 Jan 2018
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      My goal is to understand the big picture of how realitiy works, using all the different perspectives to assemble a multidimensional view. What are you trying to do?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jan 2018
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      I am trying to achieve integrity. Many offerings have to be dismissed.

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        2. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 14 Jan 2018
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          In my approach, dismissing data is adding bias. Which is fine when it comes to emotional stuff, like partner selection, but it makes logical thinking impossible.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Jan 2018
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          I am not dismissing data, I am dismissing interpretations.

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