Right… and, unfortunately, I don’t think the MIT professors I had as a math undergraduate understood the issues involved at all well either. Anyway, were unwilling to discuss them!
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Absolutely. I just don't think that mathematical objects exist in an ontological sense. Mathematics is the domain of specifications. Uncomputable physics describes mathematical objects, not ontological ones, but these can be emergent patterns over existing structure.
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it's kind of hard to model/perceive noncomputational behavior in your surroundings when all you have is a wet computer
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