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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. samim‏ @samim 2 Jan 2018
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      Silicon Valley's offerings are like the sirens from greek mythology: Very seductive but deadly.pic.twitter.com/m7TvrTu4q6

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 Jan 2018
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      Brought to you on deadly Twitter. Here's hoping you don't use one of these deadly Macbooks, or anything that contains the deathly horrors of AMD, Nvidia, Intel, Cisco, Netflix, Ebay, EA, Fitbit, GoPro, Netgear, Atmel...

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    3. samim‏ @samim 2 Jan 2018
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      It is very coherently possible (and necessary) to use offerings and simultaneously (and vocally) be critical of them. Or are you with out doubts when it comes to the valley titans? The "Siren Server" concept is nicely explained here: https://www.amazon.com/Who-Owns-Future-Jaron-Lanier/dp/1451654979/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 …

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 Jan 2018
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      I think that it is very reasonable to be extremely critical of Silicon Valley, but at the same time I think that its innovations have been very overwhelmingly a force for good. Also, I think that Jaron Lanier's cultural criticism lacks integrity.

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    5. samim‏ @samim 2 Jan 2018
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      Agree, historically much of the innovation has been used for good. Yet given the current climate, greater caution, public discussion and participation is needed.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 Jan 2018
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      Do you remember the public discussion about car industry, health industry, oil industry, energy industry? Me neither. A bunch of the "participation" looks like a protection racket: look, nice tech company you have here, would be such a shame if something were to happen to it...

      3:05 PM - 2 Jan 2018
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        2. samim‏ @samim 2 Jan 2018
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          vividly remember the (ongoing) public discourse around the energy industry in Germany. Led to tangible outcomes (https://energytransition.org/2013/10/citizens-own-half-of-german-renewables/ …). I mostly get your point and would agree on a cynical day, but don't want to stop envisioning a more distributed reality.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 2 Jan 2018
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          While I applaud and share your sentiments, this was basically the opposite of a public discourse with the energy industry. The private/community sector solar movement is the response to the energy providers' refusal to innovate or go green. It is routing around them.

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        2. samim‏ @samim 2 Jan 2018
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          regarding the "protection racket" comment: How do you suggest entities such as the EU A) go about taxing Big-Tech (currently very difficult) and B) ensure they have a healthy local eco-system (after the US, currently only in China due to heavy protectionism) ?

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          The EU commission is pretty much indifferent to public concerns and only torn between the conflicting wishes of US and EU corporate lobbyists.

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