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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 31 Dec 2017
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    Eternalist time: all time points are already instantiated but we only see one of them. Fat time: all possible timelines are instantiated in parallel, forming a single fat time line, but we only experience the part looping information back to us.

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    • FFx Titanium #polythematisch Rita J. King Herbert A. Meyer Shulgin's Daemon Neo//Lix Aron Adler Dexter Dysthe
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      2. Klaus Stein‏ @Lapizistik 31 Dec 2017
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        How is “already” defined outside of time? ;-) [besides this I believe a similar model solves all problems (and you can still have “free will” if you want]

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 31 Dec 2017
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        Subjective free will is in no useful sense related to determinism, and freedom makes no sense outside of a subjectivist context. "already" means that they are simultaneously implemented in the substrate, rather than successively. Simultaneity intuitively precludes dynamicity.

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      2. Rita J. King‏ @RitaJKing 31 Dec 2017
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        Are those mutually exclusive?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 31 Dec 2017
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        No, we can have fat eternalist time, or course, with the entire phase space of all evolutions being instantiated at once.

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      2. StrayTaoist‏ @StrayTaoist 31 Dec 2017
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        (I still hold with) Emergent time: only exists for observers inside the universe.

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 31 Dec 2017
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        Relativistic time is only defined with respect to an observer. But here, we are referring to the computational arrow, which is much more basic.

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      1. samim‏ @samim 31 Dec 2017
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        the "fat time" concept is very much inline with how Japanese shintoism sees time. This recent anime played with this nicely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Name 

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