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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 23 Dec 2017
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      In the long run, the most successful ideologies are going to be those that are best aligned with evolution. Unfortunately, evolution tends to be very unpleasant for its participants. At some point, we may have to choose between favoring ethics or life.

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    2. an end‏ @hyperfekt 23 Dec 2017
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      Aren't self-preserving, self-spreading ethics the answer (and already somewhat of a norm)?

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 23 Dec 2017
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      That is an open research problem. I wish I could help.

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    4. an end‏ @hyperfekt 23 Dec 2017
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      I mean, good ethics necessarily have to have those properties, or their effects are ultimately not optimal and with that they wouldn't be good either. So I do not see a real dichotomy here. What about western attempts at spreading democracy? Aren't they already a lil bit of that?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 23 Dec 2017
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      With the remarkable exception of reinstalling democracy in Germany after WW2, I think there has never been a good faith attempt of the West to spread democracy. There were insufficient incentives to do that.

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        2. an end‏ @hyperfekt 24 Dec 2017
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          Oh, definitely, that's why I restricted it so much. It's mostly just exists in rethoric and political argument, unfortunately. But I felt it is widely understood in Western countries to be important, even if the actual successes are limited.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 24 Dec 2017
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          Western populations have little idea what democracy truly is, because their attention is captured by the theatrics of political soap operas. Democracy is the civil rule of (mostly benevolent) oligarchs, administered through electable politicians and unelectable institutions.

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