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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 20 Dec 2017
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    A God is not a supernatural entity but the identification of a social superorganism from the perspective of the individual, which takes primacy over individual interests. The soul is the relation that binds the individual to the projected superorganism.

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      2. Turil Cronburg‏ @thewiseturtle 20 Dec 2017
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        My translation of "God", after years of listening to those who use the term (positively), is: The laws of physics. (The creative force of reality.)

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 20 Dec 2017
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        Btw it is obviously pointless to pray to the law of physics. The universe is just a computer, it cannot love you. But the superorganism can give meaning to your life, and it can love you for your service.

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      2. samim‏ @samim 24 Dec 2017
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        Are you describing a collective Egregore? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egregore 

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 24 Dec 2017
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        Yes, of course

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      2. katia wladi‏ @KWladi 20 Dec 2017
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        I think, it's religion, not god. God is the answer created by human to the great aporia of our meaningless lives in a world that does not make sense. But for sure our societies are based on the principle of sacrifice.

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        What if it is the other way around, and the aporia is caused by the void left by religion?

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      1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 20 Dec 2017
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        JP is a pretty smart cookie! but I still find full submission of normative agency to a hivemind somewhat repulsive

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      1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 20 Dec 2017
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        It is not the individual that is sacred. The sacred is the system that the individual is part of.

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      1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 20 Dec 2017
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        Nah, he is just asking some of the right questions. Geniuses are more like Wolfram, Chomsky or Tao...

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        He does, and finding the right questions is often much harder than finding the right answers. Conversely, the biggest geniuses often diddle around in very narrow fields of interest.

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