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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Yuri Volkov‏ @hackermill 14 Dec 2017
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      Yuri Volkov Retweeted Joscha Bach

      local optimums are dangerous - they can get civilizations collapsed. Use evolutionary algorithms & ensure enough level of mutation is present in the society ;)https://twitter.com/Plinz/status/941522164586557440 …

      Yuri Volkov added,

      Joscha Bach @Plinz
      The Game of Go has been explored for 2500 years and resulted in a body of theories that Go masters study in Go schools. Alpha Go discovered that human Go understanding was caught in a local optimum, and broke out of it. The game of modern physics started only 130 years ago...
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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Dec 2017
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      For societies, the real bitch is how to find Nash equilibria that are compatible with things not going to shit. Offsetting incentives requires governance, incentives of government need to be aligned with creating global optima, you need adaptive error correction etc.

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    3. Yuri Volkov‏ @hackermill 15 Dec 2017
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      once Nash equilibria is found then what is the point for a society to exist beyond this point?

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 15 Dec 2017
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      there is no point, we are a kind of yeast

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    5. Yuri Volkov‏ @hackermill 15 Dec 2017
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      heh, so the only way to ensure human survival as a race is to never reach Nash equilibria and just spend eternity searching and deliberately turning away once (if) one is seen on the horizon :)

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    6. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 15 Dec 2017
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      Misunderstanding! The Nash equilibrium is reached when all individual agents have optimized their behavior according to their incentives (whatever they think these are). Often this local equilibrium is not producing the globally best outcome, which is why you need governance.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 15 Dec 2017
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      A government is an agent that imposes an offset on the payoff function (via reward or punishment) of the individuals, so their Nash equilibria change, thereby improving the total benefits generated by the system. Often, this will increase the payoff for all individuals.

      2:13 AM - 15 Dec 2017
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        1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 15 Dec 2017
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          However, if an individual thinks that they would get a higher payoff by opting out of the system, they will not voluntarily submit to the government, so the government may have to give them extra rewards or punishments, or the individuals go rogue or Brexit.

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