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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Dec 2017
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      The Game of Go has been explored for 2500 years and resulted in a body of theories that Go masters study in Go schools. Alpha Go discovered that human Go understanding was caught in a local optimum, and broke out of it. The game of modern physics started only 130 years ago...

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    2. Jikku Jose‏ @JikkuJose 14 Dec 2017
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      Fascinating point to ponder, but I think the 130 years of modern #physics is several orders of magnitude deeper than 2500 years of Go. #AI

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Dec 2017
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      That is my intuition, too, but let's put the different problem structure aside: If you compare the problem solving capacity of the small foundational physics community with the community that developed the Go tradition, do you really think it is 10^3 or more times larger?

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        2. Jikku Jose‏ @JikkuJose 15 Dec 2017
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          2/ Foundational Physics community in my guess might be at least a few orders of magnitude more than the Go foundational team.

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        3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 15 Dec 2017
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          Let us put it another way: I think the effort required for mastery in foundational physics cannot be several orders of magnitude higher than the effort for mastery in Go, both should consume perhaps ~2 decades of a good human mind at full attention.

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        1. Jikku Jose‏ @JikkuJose 15 Dec 2017
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          I am not qualified to answer that conclusively. But, if I have to guess, I do feel it’s much deeper:

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        1. Jikku Jose‏ @JikkuJose 15 Dec 2017
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          1/ because I feel the number of people involved in either is significantly different.

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          I think once AI can reason about Infinite Category theories may be then it will be able to discover something of importance whether that can be communicable or not is a different story.

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