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    1. Anil Dash‏Verified account @anildash 14 Dec 2017
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      So @sama has articulated the way many guys in Silicon Valley feel about "free speech". It's not a very sophisticated or informed view, but it's pretty common and he's influential, so it's worth identifying why it's dangerous and wrong.http://blog.samaltman.com/e-pur-si-muove 

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    2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @anildash @sama

      you are making his point

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    3. Anil Dash‏Verified account @anildash 14 Dec 2017
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      Wow, you hate my free speech a lot. Guess you owe me funding!

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Dec 2017
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      I am unaware that I expressed hatred, and it was not my intention to do so. I just think, very respectfully, that you are making his point.

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    5. Anil Dash‏Verified account @anildash 14 Dec 2017
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      His point is that it’s better to fund people who overtly hate gay people, and my point is it’s better to have fewer gay teens kill themselves.

      5 replies 2 retweets 108 likes
    6. Jules Pitt‏ @PittLabs 14 Dec 2017
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      Where did he say it's better to fund people like that?

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @PittLabs @anildash @sama

      The disagreement is more fundamental. @sama is not in support of homophobia, he argues that progress in fundamental physics might prevent more suffering than banishing everyone with political opinions he opposes from doing physics. @anildash takes the opposite view.

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    8. Anil Dash‏Verified account @anildash 14 Dec 2017
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      That’s insufficient; you’re ignoring that he’s setting the bar at him being able to fund the homophobes. If we insist that only evil people have such key insights, why not just steal their work instead? Happens all the time, and is safer for the world that way.

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 14 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @anildash @PittLabs @sama

      I think he uses the homophobes as an example for an opinion that he clearly does not share. You can also insert your least favorite take on the Middle East conflict. Most political ideas result from biographical factors, not malicious intent.

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        2. Anil Dash‏Verified account @anildash 14 Dec 2017
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          The bigger dishonesty here is conflating speech that we tolerate with hatred that we fund. It’s a cynical and inexcusable tactic.

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        3. John Miller 🐻 ❌‏ @its_all__fake 15 Dec 2017
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          I'd rather risk the hurt feelings than to criminalize unpopular criticism. Anything the govt touches control of degrades into authoritarianism. I get the feeling you wouldn't want President Trump to decide which words we can and can't use.

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