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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Dec 2017
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      Without an argument, you don't have a case, I think. And I cannot take a pragmatic position, without having derived it (personal issue, but seems philosophically consistent too)

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    2. Gregg Miller‏ @Gregg_E_Miller 11 Dec 2017
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      I'm interested in where people get their epistemology more than in what particular epistemology they choose. This has been an interest of mine for a long time.

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    3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Dec 2017
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      Personally, I probably have a brain that is naturally disinclined to obeyance (even toward myself). I also grew up in an atheist world but with inconsistent teleological metaphysics (East Germany), so I saw myself forced to reject external epistemological offerings.

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    4. Gregg Miller‏ @Gregg_E_Miller 11 Dec 2017
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      Yes, I agree. I think environment does play a role in making us psychologically more or less inclined to a particular position. But I think the tweet that accompanied this one indicates that you are also working out a rational argument in defense of reason. Is this correct?

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    5. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Dec 2017
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      I am not a priori committed to reason, I just have a model of the space of results of picking the alternatives.

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    6. Gregg Miller‏ @Gregg_E_Miller 11 Dec 2017
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      Are you then a posteriori committed to reason or would you be agnostic with respect to this as you are with respect to the existence of a real world?

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Dec 2017
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      Yes! For instance, if it turns out that we get better predictions by assuming that we don't live in a world with definite ground truth (like a David Lynch movie), and revelation through telepathic tree stumps works better, we may have to drop reason.

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    8. Gregg Miller‏ @Gregg_E_Miller 11 Dec 2017
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      Alright, don't lose patience with me here because this may sound a little weird but in such a world would reason *necessarily* be antithetical to said revelation or could it act in service of it. I'm talking about your hypothetical world here.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Dec 2017
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      You cannot reason when you cannot establish noncontradictory axioms, but if you are lucky you may be able to prove that your brain cannot compute on them, or that your universe does not have a computable nature.

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    10. Gregg Miller‏ @Gregg_E_Miller 11 Dec 2017
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      How are reason and revelation contradictory axioms? Even in this world the trees "speak" to us (reveal information), perhaps in another possible world they have more to say. The same reason interprets the revelation in both cases?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 11 Dec 2017
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      (In case you are a fan of Stranger Things, too)https://youtu.be/S-4rhjO6xYg?t=2m25s …

      4:20 PM - 11 Dec 2017
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