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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Dec 2017
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    It is a scary feature of our minds that we can only see reality through our models, and if our brain cannot properly adjust the model to fit reality, we will strongly feel that reality is wrong. That's the nature of dysphoria.

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      2. Justin Scholz‏ @JMoVS 9 Dec 2017
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        Suppose that is the case, then how do we come up with new models?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Dec 2017
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        Realize that you need to disidentify with the current layer of modeling, and obtain a metalayer that optimizes over the space of lower level models. It may not always be possible

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      1. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Dec 2017
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        if the gradient generated by the loss function does not point towards truth, and neither does the gradient of the function that optimizes the loss function, you are fucked

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      2. Hind‏ @7anooch 9 Dec 2017
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        Can you elaborate on that point?

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      3. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 9 Dec 2017
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        Yes, but perhaps not on Twitter?

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      2. m≡ta speak‏ @metasprech 9 Dec 2017
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        Isn't it the other way round with gender dysphoria? Reality is wrong and has to be adjusted?

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        If it is a dysphoria, that this is exactly what it would feel like, no?

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      1. visarga‏ @visarga 9 Dec 2017
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        It's more like we don't want to abandon a model that has proven good enough, for the search of an unknown model that might explain reality better. We're stuck in a local optimum of model design.

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      1. ToastMX‏ @ToastMX 9 Dec 2017
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        making new better models

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