Usually not true; every stable social structure evolves mechanisms for that. Conversely CoCs allow power grabs by sociopathic parasites and ideologues, because they replace social standing and merit with a legalistic machinery that can put group resources against the group itself
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Replying to @Plinz
Now how is a CoC not a mechanism for that, just documented?
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Replying to @andreasdotorg
Because the original mechanism existed as an implementation in the intentions, understanding and social abilities of people that had to constantly earn their right to employ it. The CoC is a completely new mechanism, a machine that can be used by any bad actor.
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Replying to @Plinz
Say, how exactly do I "earn the right" not to be raped? By social standing?
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Replying to @andreasdotorg
Are you suggesting that social groups usually need a CoC to award its members the right not to be raped? You sound insane to me.
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Replying to @Plinz
Well, it was you who came up with "social standing" or "merits" in this debate. Just asking what you mean by this.
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Replying to @andreasdotorg
In the absence of controlling goons or crucial resources, the influence you have in a group is awarded to you by its members based on how they perceive your abilities (that is called merits). Social standing is the measure of your capacity for influence.
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Replying to @Plinz
And? What does this have to do with having a well-defined set of rules how to deal with bad people?
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Replying to @andreasdotorg
You asked what I mean by merits and social standing. I did answer.
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Replying to @Plinz
andreasdotorg Retweeted Joscha Bach
You directly talked about "the right to employ it[mechanisms against bad people" here: https://twitter.com/Plinz/status/937639638877069312 … It certainly looked to me like you were making an agument about access to mechanisms based on merit.
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Joscha Bach @PlinzReplying to @andreasdotorgBecause the original mechanism existed as an implementation in the intentions, understanding and social abilities of people that had to constantly earn their right to employ it. The CoC is a completely new mechanism, a machine that can be used by any bad actor.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
That is exactly what "merit" means: the degree to which one can be trusted to wield the mechanisms of power. Which is NOT the degree to which one deserves protection. (Bad actors often like to claim that merit is just undeserved privilege.)
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Replying to @Plinz
It's intesting to note how people seem to conflate technical merit with social merit here, though. Note how people like Assange, Appelbaum, Marquis-Boire exploited that.
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