Codes of Conduct can never replace good intentions, mutual respect and human decency, but in the right hands, they can be an excellent tool for bullying and abuse.
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Replying to @Plinz
A lack of a code of conduct is an excellent opportunity for bullying and abuse by people who happen to lack good intentions, mutual respect and human decency.
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Replying to @andreasdotorg
A code of conduct never changes bad actors, and they will always find ways to circumvent or even use them, for instance by creating Kangaroo courts. Erroneous conduct of well intentioned people can usually be resolved, but bad actors cannot.
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Replying to @Plinz
Let's see. Not having a code of conduct means you don't have a way to escalate a response to a bad actor up to the point of throwing them out.
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Replying to @andreasdotorg
Usually not true; every stable social structure evolves mechanisms for that. Conversely CoCs allow power grabs by sociopathic parasites and ideologues, because they replace social standing and merit with a legalistic machinery that can put group resources against the group itself
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Replying to @Plinz
Now how is a CoC not a mechanism for that, just documented?
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Replying to @andreasdotorg
Because the original mechanism existed as an implementation in the intentions, understanding and social abilities of people that had to constantly earn their right to employ it. The CoC is a completely new mechanism, a machine that can be used by any bad actor.
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Replying to @Plinz
Say, how exactly do I "earn the right" not to be raped? By social standing?
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Replying to @andreasdotorg
Are you suggesting that social groups usually need a CoC to award its members the right not to be raped? You sound insane to me.
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Replying to @Plinz
Well, it was you who came up with "social standing" or "merits" in this debate. Just asking what you mean by this.
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In the absence of controlling goons or crucial resources, the influence you have in a group is awarded to you by its members based on how they perceive your abilities (that is called merits). Social standing is the measure of your capacity for influence.
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Replying to @Plinz
And? What does this have to do with having a well-defined set of rules how to deal with bad people?
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Replying to @andreasdotorg
You asked what I mean by merits and social standing. I did answer.
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