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FOLLOWS YOU. Artificial Intelligence, Cognitive Architectures, Computation. The goal is integrity, not conformity.

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    1. vakibs‏ @vakibs 18 Oct 2017
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      It is impossible to speak in language if you have to ve clear wgat every word means precisely. Do you really know what "time" is?

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    2. vakibs‏ @vakibs 18 Oct 2017
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      By the way, I used the consciousness word only once in this discussion. As I want to highlight the fact that it is not binary, but graded.

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    3. vakibs‏ @vakibs 18 Oct 2017
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      Specifically, all humans are not equal in consciousness. Some go through their lives like robots in dynamic homeostasis :) some are aware.

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    4. vakibs‏ @vakibs 18 Oct 2017
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      My point is that this awareness of one's self in space and time (and beyond it) is present in all forms of life & not just humans.

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    5. vakibs‏ @vakibs 18 Oct 2017
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      Just as every atom has the potential to release immense energy, but only a few will actually do so, consciousness needs to be manifest.

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    6. vakibs‏ @vakibs 18 Oct 2017
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      We already discussed before about the limitations of the axiomatic approach, where you try to define everything precisely and build in it.

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    7. vakibs‏ @vakibs 18 Oct 2017
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      This is inferior to human language where meaning is inferred not only from words, but also by human intelligence interpolating between them

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    8. vakibs‏ @vakibs 18 Oct 2017
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      Of course, there is scope for error in understanding. But there is scope for error also in the axiomatic method, just hidden from us.

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    9. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Oct 2017
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      How can you achieve understanding from language if you don't understand your own words? Aren't you just conjuring up a wild dream?

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    10. samim‏ @samim 19 Oct 2017
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      Replying to @Plinz @vakibs @pieratt

      Lets reframe: @Plinz what is the ultimate goal of living systems in your conceptual framework? Why complexify/remove entropy?

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      Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 19 Oct 2017
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      What is an _ultimate_ goal? I think there is only an emergent one, which is self-perpetuation via harvesting negentropy.

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        1. samim‏ @samim 19 Oct 2017
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          PS. Hopefully we all get to chat in person sometime, would be an honour ;) https://twitter.com/samim/status/921025503259189248 …

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        1. samim‏ @samim 19 Oct 2017
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          Emergent for sure, yet you state that there is an overarching tendency there. The "why?" I suppose leads to speculations like big C or G ;)

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